Rich W wrote: > > being a good manager and being a successful manager > > aren't necessarily the > > same thing. > > Not sure what your point is. I thought Wilko was a > very good and very successful manager. Blackie is > neither.
My point, unfortunately, is that to all outsiders Blackwell IS a successful manager, just like O'Leary was considered to be. If Wilko was VERY good and VERY successful how come he only won one title, very nearly got us relegated again and succeeded in getting Scumderland relegated? Blackwell's most optimistic target was top 6, which he achieved. He, therefore, IS at this moment in time successful. I, too, doubt that he will be this time next year but for now he is. > > I can't name one manager who will come > > here and do a more > > successful job - can you? > > I am finding it hard to think who would have done a > worse job. There's a big difference as I said between worse and successful - WHO would have come to Leeds last summer AND won the play offs or got automatic promotion, guaranteed? > He spent more money than most , he had a > better squad than most but still managed to fuck up > when it mattered with shit tactics, shot signings and > playing players out of position. So we say, but that's not the opinion of most football experts who believe the hype - I heard a guy on Five Live last Sunday tell Mark Bright that we'd played that bad all season, Mark Bright refused to believe it saying 'You can't have played that bad all season and have got to the play off final' - yes we bloody could and did I was screaming at the radio BUT contrary to what you have seen with your own eyes the stats will say that Blackwell rebuilt Leeds United in 2 seasons to a team that qualified for the Play Off final. > Interview with Marlon > King after the game on Sunday "I was played out of > position at Leeds". Interview with David Healy on > Soccer Am "I'm a winger at Leeds" - said > v.sarcastically. At best you can only play 2 centre forwards at once, as I recall Healy and Hulse were both preferred to Marlon King - I don't think that that was wrong and I don't recall you proclaiming that King should be placed above Hulse or Healy in the pecking order either. Rich Walker - 7/3/05 - 'Marlon King - crap.' Andy E - 4/3/05 - Marlon King - a reply from a Forest supporting mate at work: he has bags of talent, pace, a few tricks, and is the laziest piece of sh1te to ever have pulled on a Forest shirt. Should fit in well at Leeds... Matt Gaynor - 22/05/05 Marlon King 4 - Nearly made the invisible pile but popped up and missed a penalty at Leicester to remind us that he'd been playing. Don't think he had any impact on any of the games he played in. Get rid now. Tim Leslie - 10/02/04 - A mate of mine who's a Blades fan said (of their recent 3-0 win at Forest) the scoreline was ridiculous, Forest outplayed them all over the park but have two of the shittest strikers in professional football who can't hit a barn door with a banjo (Marlon King and someone else). > For what it's worth if we're comparing managers in the > same league I reckon all 3 of the managers that got > their teams up would have done it with Leeds and > whilst we're on the subject I would be prepared to say > that Wilko could have done it too even at his old age. Blackwell has achieved what 20 'better' 'more successful' managers, including at least 8 former premiership managers failed to achieve. So credit where its due, he's done well, he's surpassed what was expected of him but as you correctly say NOW he has to surpass what he has already achieved. > > Neither can I Paul. I am looking forward to next > season only because we will and should start as > favourites. The pressure is on. Getting stuffed by the > likes of Crewe, Sheff Wed and Brighton will no longer > be tolerated. No longer will we put up with "People > forget how far this club has come in 18 months - we > nearly went out of business you know". Blackwell will > have to change his tactics and his methods. If not I > predict he will be out of a job by Christmas. > Remember the prediction - Christmas he will be out of > a job , promotion or no promotion. Sorry to disappoint Rich but if we're in the top 2 at Christmas there is NO WAY, regardless of how dull the football is, that Blackwell will be sacked. In fact when Ken is faced with 2 and a half years compo we're gonna have to be bottom 3 at Xmas to get him sacked. Cheers Paul _______________________________________________ the Leeds List is an unmoderated mailing list and the list administrators accept no liability for the personal views and opinions of contributors. Leedslist mailing list [email protected] http://list.zetnet.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist
