If there were anything "Readily available" that would allow two or three
cell numbers to look like "RJ-11 land lines", there are any number of 
uses (this was my first choice, but can't find anything like that)
My customer "needs" (thinks he needs) more lines then SBC can give him 
"NOW"  Fixed cellular would be ideal, just can't find anything.

Don




[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> To me the biggest problem with VOIP lines is the inability for a person using 
> it to send accurate DTMF signals to automated attendants and IVRs.  For 
> example, if you use the VOIP line to call your bank the DTMF signals are 
> often 
> delayed or distorted enough to confuse the IVR.  If you try to use it for 
> incoming 
> calls, both subscribers and outside callers will complain about similar 
> issues.  Fax and modem traffic is very inconsistent.  Unless these problems 
> can be 
> eliminated completely (I doubt it), I don't ever see VOIP being a full 
> replacement for land lines.  I see fixed wireless (via cell network) becoming 
> the 
> better choice once the network upgrades are complete.  Better and more 
> consistent 
> sound quality.  Fewer security issues.  Less cabling. No dependence on the 
> Net. 
> 
> The ability to have a cell number ring your home, office and mobile at the 
> same time and whoever answers first gets the call is just the way to go...
> 
> In a message dated 3/18/2005 9:01:12 AM Eastern Standard Time, 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> Make no promises to the customer, keep all your receipts, and charge for ALL
> your labor.
> 
> I have found that VOIP, although sound quality is usually good, it usually
> has 1 second delays when speaking, calls do get dropped sometimes, and
> echoes are frequent, not to mention your going to be making changes in their
> network/firewall/port forwarding.
> 
> I have sour grapes about the whole VOIP thing, because I expected it to be
> more of an open source, internet ran, way of establishing your own
> relationships with the CLECS. It should be as easy as registering a domain
> name and paying a once a year fee to keep the phone number.
> 
> Also there is not much savings in a basic phone service package if you do
> not care about all the extras. Sometimes faxes don't work. Plus the biggest
> issue I have (I am also a licensed cabling contractor) is that when your
> internet or network is down, so is your phone.  If the ISP has network
> issues, it will affect your phone service.
> 
> John B
> Lantex Voice & Data Systems
> San Diego, CA 
> 
> 
> On 3/18/05 5:21 AM, "don" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> 
>>Has anyone used Lingo or Packet 8 ?
>>
>>I have a customer that needs more phone lines then SBC can give them.
>>SBC said that they will need 60  to 90 days for the added 3 lines.
>>There are now three lines ALL with DSL, I was planning on trying a
>>Packet 8  or Lingo line (maybe one of each) on the "unused" DSL line.
>>
>>Comments anyone ??
>>
>>
>>Don Ritchie  CENTURY COMMUNICATIONS   EUCLID, OHIO
>>
>>
>>
>>
> 
> 
> Thank You,
> 
> John Berry
> Lantex Voice & Data Systems
> San Diego, CA 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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