While it's an expensive alternative, the EarthX ETX680C is hard to beat once 
you get past the price.  5.9" long, 3.4" wide and 4.5" tall at a weight of 4# 
and provides nearly twice the cold cranking amps of the Odyssey.  It's hard to 
argue that trimming 10# off a KR is a bad thing.  And in my mind, there is 
little question that it is superior to the AGM batteries.  But the down side to 
this is that the battery lists at $379.  The one in my KR is coming up on 4 
years age and, so far, is still performing like new.  EarthX has done a good 
job of configuring this battery specifically for aviation use.

-Jeff Scott
Arkansas Ozarks

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> Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2020 at 6:04 PM
> From: "Mike Stirewalt via KRnet" <krnet@list.krnet.org>
> To: krnet@list.krnet.org
> Cc: laser...@juno.com
> Subject: KR> Odyssey PC680
>
> Kayak wrote,
>
> > "I am unaware of any better alternative however.  Maybe others here can
> share anecdotal experience with them, good or bad or if there are any
> true peers to consider."
>
> I've got a contender for consideration:
>
> I thought I'd look this Odyssey battery up and see why it's considered a
> "gold standard."
>
> I think we choose batteries, first of all, for our planes based upon the
> size of our battery box.  Once that's been determined then it's a matter
> of picking the ones we either know to be good or have heard are good
> within the limitations of the size of our battery box..  I've always
> heard Odyssey is a premium battery.
>
> When I went looking for the best battery for my sized battery box - which
> is the next size larger than the typical motorcycle battery holders found
> on many if not most KRs,  I found one from Japan that doesn't cost any
> more than this PC680 and is just a small amount larger, but boy . . . a
> huge difference in specs.
>
> This Odyssey is 7.1 inches across the front and the NEPO M44 I've got is
> 7.7 inches across the front, so .6 inches wider.
>
> The Odyssey is 3 inches "deep" whereas my NEPO is 5 inches, so that's
> significant.  Two inches deeper so it's not going to fit in a motorcycle
> size battery box.
>
> Height for the Odyssey is 6.5 inches and the NEPO is 8.9.  Almost 2 1/2"
> higher.   Ken Cottle built my battery box to fit a "lawn tractor" size
> battery and located it, (very securely) on the hat shelf behind my head.
> Between it and my head is a solid piece of cushioned wood that's the rear
> canopy frame.  Whether he did that for CG reasons (I doubt it since KR's
> almost all tend to come out tail heavy) or just to get it away from the
> heat and vibration of the engine compartment I've never remembered to
> ask, but that's where it is.  I've learned to very much appreciate the
> extra capacity that I can stick in the battery box - capacity over and
> above what's available in a motorcycle-sized battery.  Even an Odyssey.
>
> Here's what it looked like just after I'd bought it.  I'll see if I can
> find a picture of it when its residing in the aircraft.
>
> https://tinyurl.com/yxld3szm
>
> Odyssey is 16 lbs. shipping weight and weighing my NEPO just now (since I
> happen to have it at home instead of at the hangar) is 25 lbs.  So it's
> ten lbs. heavier, two inches deeper and 2.5 inches taller.
>
> Both are AGM and both cost almost exactly the same.
>
> There's some differences other than the NEPO being slightly deeper and
> higher:
>
> Odyssey  PC680                                         NEPO M44L
>
> 16Ah capacity                                             55Ah capacity
>
>
> 170 CCA, 280 MCA, 350 HCA                725 CA at 68 degrees
> 520 Cranking Amps for 5 Seconds         570 CA at 32 degrees
>                                                                    380
> CAA at 0 degrees
>
>
> The only source I know of for the M44 is Powerstride.
>
> https://tinyurl.com/va5lqls
>
> They didn't have them in their inventory for a while and I was concerned
> about ever finding another one in case mine ever poops out (it's
> currently 4 years and 4 months since I bought it).  But I see they are
> back in their inventory.  The "L" has been dropped from the designation
> and it's color is different, but it otherwise looks the same and the
> specs are the same.  My current one still will hold a 12.8 charge.  I
> treat it really nice, which is why I have it at home where I can keep a 1
> amp charger on it once in a while and monitor its use and also monitor
> voltages while the battery sits with no charger on it.  I'm a little OCD
> when it comes to this battery since I went through several crap lawn
> tractor size batteries before I found this NEPO and for quite a while I
> didn't think I could replace it should it ever fail, but Powerstride has
> them back in stock thank goodness.  My plane is a real electricity hog
> when coming in at night with everything turned on and the puny 16 amp GP
> alternator not putting out anything since the engine is at idle or close
> to it.    Once I have ADS-B and other doo-dads this electrical loading
> will be even more the case.  As it sets, this NEPO M44 theoretically will
> carry the entire electronic load of the plane with everything turned on,
> for 45 minutes.  I've never tested it to its maximum, but I have gone
> well into the reserves in night landings and it's never flinched.  I've
> even hopped out of the plane after one of these everything on night
> landings and taken a reading on the battery and I've never found it even
> low.  So I've come to trust it.   Of course I need to replace my very
> greedy position lights with LED's and same thing with my halogen landing
> lights and I'll be doing that.
>
> So . . . since the topic of batteries is at hand, I'm again noting for
> the group's attention this rare find of a really powerful and relatively
> compact electrical source.  It's about half the size and weight of the
> new battery I just bought for my Oldsmobile and the CCA and CA numbers
> aren't much lower than the car battery's numbers.  I couldn't find an Ah
> rating for the Costco battery but for the size of this M44L, the Ah
> capacity is simply amazing.  At least I'm amazed.  Prior to finding the
> NEPO the best Ah number I could find for this size battery was in the mid
> 30's.  For a small increase in dimension and weight, the M44 delivers
> over three times the electrical reserve of the Odyssey.
>
> ************************
>
> While on the subject of gizmos, Mike Sylvester recommended a Wal-Mart
> phone called an LG Rebel 4 a few weeks ago with the idea that we can load
> Avare on it and have a handy, inexpensive back-up in the cockpit.  Well .
> . . it's all true.  This is my first smartphone so maybe others won't be
> quite as amazed as I am by it, but truly . . . I'm amazed.  It has a GPS
> in it and a bright enough screen and plenty of room to hold Avare and all
> the WAC charts plus a whole lot more.  I've not even activated it, just
> downloaded Avare and charts on my home wi-fi.  Using Google Voice I can
> even make and receive calls on it.  If I buy some airtime for it it will
> function as a hotspot for my laptop when I'm out of town.  All of this
> and more . . . for $20!
>
> Mike
> KSEE
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