OK - let me see if I can help. I have a standard KR-2 with flaps. First off
the flaps as built per plans will not pitch the nose down! They do not have
the area to being even close to doing that - about the only thing they can
do for you is marginally help stabilize your air speed on final. I haven't
found any help in deploying them on take-off, the only benefit I have found
is that two notches will help you get the tail up when operating at gross.
Now all that being said I was able to make a rather simple modification that
probably made my installation twice as effective and that was to add a
center section flap that fills the gap between the flaps across the bottom
of the fuselage. I can supply pics if you wish but it's simplify a piece of
reinforced 1/8" ply that is hinged off of the flaps inboard hinge points
with a third center point added. The ply has tabs on the ends that the flaps
engage and the center section flap is deployed along with the flaps. I get
about a 6 kt reduction in stall speed with the flaps fully deployed. Larry
is right on his post the only good numbers that are meaningful are going to
be ones you generate in your Phase I testing - Best advice I can give is to
do you initial testing on a 4,000 foot field - I prefer turf myself it's
more forgiving. Then once you have a feel for the airplane shorter fields
become a possibility.

My apologies for not trimming the original note - but it's seems pertinent
to leave it in its entirety.


Rick Human
N202RH
Houston, Tx



-----Original Message-----
From: krnet-boun...@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-boun...@mylist.net] On Behalf
Of Dave Dunwoodie
Sent: Saturday, August 21, 2010 6:02 PM
To: kr...@mylist.net
Subject: KR> Flap Effectiveness - 2nd Pass

Many thanks to everybody that responded!  However, I didn't really get 
the information I was after.  I am looking for pitch up, pitch down 
information when the flaps are deployed, as well as effective slowing 
numbers correlated to percentage of flap deployed, stall speed changes, 
recommended flap settings for takeoff from short field, etc.

For example, with full flaps deployed, doing slow flight, what stall 
speeds are you getting?  How effective are the flaps for landing, and 
what are the numbers?  Would you use no flaps, or 1-2-3 notches of flap 
for takeoff from short field?  If you used flaps for takeoff, at what 
speeds would you being them back to zero?

In my Warrior, I have all sorts of numbers available to me to make 
decisions with, but in the KR2, I have nothing!  In the Duchess, I have 
the same information available, but again, in the KR2, I am trying to 
"write the book", so I really need input!

Thanks everyone!

Dave.


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