I tried to make this point many times, but didn't get accross the process, I 
have welded 4130 with acetylene torch ( my landing gears)and they are just 
fine. Some oxidation by the weld but they clean up with a a little sand 
blasting with micro beads. Heat treating is unnecessary and extra expensive.

Ron
---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
From: "Mark Youkey" <myou...@cox.net>
Reply-To: KR builders and pilots <kr...@mylist.net>
List-Post: krnet@list.krnet.org
Date: Thu, 1 May 2003 12:39:30 -0500

>The previous discussion a few weeks ago about WAFs, and laser cutting, heat 
>treating, etc, didn't set well with me.  So today I finally found out why.  As 
>it turns out, 4130 steel air normalizes.  That means that if you heat it up, 
>and then just let it sit out to cool down, you have returned it to a 
>normalized state, and have done the heat-treating yourself.  No wonder it's a 
>cheap process....but paying for that at all sounds like you are overpaying.  
>
>So, my point is, no matter how you make the holes in your WAF's, whether it be 
>waterjet, laser cutting, drilling, or shooting a bullet through them, there is 
>no reason to worry about the heat affected zone, or losing the heat treatment. 
> By setting these on your workbench when you are done making a hole and 
>waiting a bit, you have effectively normalized the part.....and done it 
>cheaply.  Nice, huh?  Just don't throw water or oil on it...that will screw up 
>the cooling speed and give you potentially unwanted results--hence "Air 
>Normalize"
>
>Here's a good website that talks about 4130 steel.
>http://www.eaa1000.av.org/technicl/4130.htm 
>
>http://www.eaa1000.av.org has links on it to great pages, including "Technical 
>Articles" where I found the steel article.
>
>As promised in my subject line, 
>http://www.eaa1000.av.org/technicl/antennae.htm is a good article on antenna 
>installation.  Hope this helps.
>
>Whoever out there is a member of Chapter 1000, great website.
>
>Mark Youkey
>myou...@cox.net
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