All you have to do is say "lawyer" to someone in aviation, if you really
want to get on the wrong side of them.  If a person is already spouting out
"lawyer", you may prefer that they don't build any airplane.



See N64KR at  <http://krbuilder.org/> http://KRBuilder.org - Then click on
the pics 



Peoples Choice at 2013 - KR Gathering in Mt. Vernon, Il - MVN 

Best KR at 2013 - KR Gathering in Mt. Vernon, Il - MVN 

Best Interior at 2013 - KR Gathering in Mt. Vernon, Il - MVN 

Best Paint at 2013 - KR Gathering in Mt. Vernon, Il - MVN 

Best Firwwall Forward at 2013 - KR Gathering in Mt. Vernon, Il - MVN 



Best Interior and Panel at 2008 - KR Gathering in Mt. Vernon, Il - MVN





Daniel R. Heath - Lexington, SC





-----Original Message-----
From: KRnet [mailto:krnet-bounces at list.krnet.org] On Behalf Of Tony King via
KRnet
Sent: Friday, August 29, 2014 4:20 PM
To: Marc Baca; KRnet
Cc: Kyle Gonterwitz
Subject: Re: KR> Nvaero



You know that's all well and good, and I'm certainly hoping Steve's still
willing to do what he does when the time comes that I need some of his
products, but at the same time, if someone new to the community asks an
inappropriate question (and to my mind Kyle's question wasn't entirely out
of order - three weeks is a long time to go without even an acknowledgment,
especially if you don't know the business you're dealing with), is it really
appropriate to be saying "we don't want you building a KR"?  Steve's
obviously under a lot of pressure to be responding to customers in that way.



Kyle, don't take this experience as representative of how members of the KR
community are normally welcomed.



TK



Sent from my iPad



On 30 Aug 2014, at 5:18 am, Marc Baca via KRnet <
<mailto:krnet at list.krnet.org> krnet at list.krnet.org> wrote:



Hello KR Netters;



I feel compelled to step in here to give KR Netters some insight into the
Herculean efforts consistently endeavored upon by Steve Glover of NVAero
over the last few months   Aside from his arduous labor intensive company
and primary business that he owns and runs, he operates NVAero as a service
to the KR Community. I say "service to the KR community" because given the
efforts to fulfill orders, overhead and cost of materials, there is little
or no profit in it.  





I (volunteer) assist him on a part time basis in exchange for him imparting
onto me the skills necessary to build safe aircraft. I get to witness the
trials and tribulations of getting orders filled for buyers.  As if running
one and a half businesses, providing technical support to builders and
running around gathering materials/tools for kit/part orders  and building
the parts was not enough, he/we took on the task of preparing for and
hosting the 2014 KR Gathering.....  mostly because of his/our enthusiam for
KR's.



Steve has overcome quite a few obstacles in preparation for the gathering
and has done so in an effort to make this gathering successful, memorable
and comfortable for all of us.  He has planned and coordinated the workshops
that required extensive amounts of time, effort and material gathering to
increase KR builder's skill level. He battled with the airport
administration for the camp ground, he coordinated the awards and the site
for the banquet, he sampled caterers, we have worked on available KR
aircraft to prepare tem for the formation flight around So. Cal. etc etc..
Based on the intensity and amount of work he has gone through over the last
few months, Steve has been quite modest ... and as such he hasn't complained
even once about leaving his regular jobs at the end of the work day to tend
to  Hangar and Gathering demands til 11:00 pm almost every day for the last
few months.   





Im proposing that we cut him a break and perhaps offer to lend a hand... If
you've placed an order please consider just having a little more patience
for the moment.  If you are not planning to come to the gathering, please
re-consider & make an effort to attend.   This KR Gathering is expected to
be memorable and we would be elated to have you here. At the few gatherings
I've been to I've experienced a strong sense of comradery and enthusiasm as
well as a very important sharing of information about building.  If you can
fly in or drag a KR to show or sell, that would be better.  





I use Kayak.com for good deals on airline tickets.  



Below are a couple of short video about past gatherings.



 <https://vimeo.com/50813916> https://vimeo.com/50813916



 <https://vimeo.com/50812971> https://vimeo.com/50812971



Marc Baca

East Los Angeles

N13UG   KR-2



N31SB KR-1







On Friday, August 29, 2014 10:57 AM, Steve G. via KRnet <
<mailto:krnet at list.krnet.org> krnet at list.krnet.org> wrote:







You know. I don't think we want you as a builder. I will be refunding you
money and be canceling your order. 



Steve Glover



Sent from my iPhone



> On Aug 29, 2014, at 10:51, Kyle Gonterwitz via KRnet <
<mailto:krnet at list.krnet.org> krnet at list.krnet.org> wrote:

> 

> I ordered KR2s plans from nvaero about three weeks ago, paid, and have 

> heard nothing back yet.  My order status is "waiting to be fulfilled".

> 

> Please advise if this was the appropriate way to obtain official plans 

> and if this is a  trustworthy company.  How long should I expect to 

> wait for a response or order fulfillment before I contact my attorney
general?

> 

> Kyle

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