You know that's all well and good, and I'm certainly hoping Steve's still 
willing to do what he does when the time comes that I need some of his 
products, but at the same time, if someone new to the community asks an 
inappropriate question (and to my mind Kyle's question wasn't entirely out of 
order - three weeks is a long time to go without even an acknowledgment, 
especially if you don't know the business you're dealing with), is it really 
appropriate to be saying "we don't want you building a KR"?  Steve's obviously 
under a lot of pressure to be responding to customers in that way.

Kyle, don't take this experience as representative of how members of the KR 
community are normally welcomed.

TK

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On 30 Aug 2014, at 5:18 am, Marc Baca via KRnet <krnet at list.krnet.org> wrote:

Hello KR Netters;

I feel compelled to step in here to give KR Netters some insight into the 
Herculean efforts consistently endeavored upon by Steve Glover of NVAero over 
the last few months   Aside from his arduous labor intensive company and 
primary business that he owns and runs, he operates NVAero as a service to the 
KR Community. I say "service to the KR community" because given the efforts to 
fulfill orders, overhead and cost of materials, there is little or no profit in 
it.  


I (volunteer) assist him on a part time basis in exchange for him imparting 
onto me the skills necessary to build safe aircraft. I get to witness the 
trials and tribulations of getting orders filled for buyers.  As if running one 
and a half businesses, providing technical support to builders and running 
around gathering materials/tools for kit/part orders  and building the parts 
was not enough, he/we took on the task of preparing for and hosting the 2014 KR 
Gathering.....  mostly because of his/our enthusiam for KR's.

Steve has overcome quite a few obstacles in preparation for the gathering and 
has done so in an effort to make this gathering successful, memorable and 
comfortable for all of us.  He has planned and coordinated the workshops that 
required extensive amounts of time, effort and material gathering to increase 
KR builder's skill level. He battled with the airport administration for the 
camp ground, he coordinated the awards and the site for the banquet, he sampled 
caterers, we have worked on available KR aircraft to prepare tem for the 
formation flight around So. Cal. etc etc..   Based on the intensity and amount 
of work he has gone through over the last few months, Steve has been quite 
modest ... and as such he hasn't complained even once about leaving his regular 
jobs at the end of the work day to tend to  Hangar and Gathering demands til 
11:00 pm almost every day for the last few months.   


Im proposing that we cut him a break and perhaps offer to lend a hand... If 
you've placed an order please consider just having a little more patience for 
the moment.  If you are not planning to come to the gathering, please 
re-consider & make an effort to attend.   This KR Gathering is expected to be 
memorable and we would be elated to have you here. At the few gatherings I've 
been to I've experienced a strong sense of comradery and enthusiasm as well as 
a very important sharing of information about building.  If you can fly in or 
drag a KR to show or sell, that would be better.  


I use Kayak.com for good deals on airline tickets.  

Below are a couple of short video about past gatherings.

https://vimeo.com/50813916

https://vimeo.com/50812971

Marc Baca
East Los Angeles
N13UG   KR-2

N31SB KR-1



On Friday, August 29, 2014 10:57 AM, Steve G. via KRnet <krnet at 
list.krnet.org> wrote:



You know. I don't think we want you as a builder. I will be refunding you money 
and be canceling your order. 

Steve Glover

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> On Aug 29, 2014, at 10:51, Kyle Gonterwitz via KRnet <krnet at 
> list.krnet.org> wrote:
> 
> I ordered KR2s plans from nvaero about three weeks ago, paid, and have
> heard nothing back yet.  My order status is "waiting to be fulfilled".
> 
> Please advise if this was the appropriate way to obtain official plans and
> if this is a  trustworthy company.  How long should I expect to wait for a
> response or order fulfillment before I contact my attorney general?
> 
> Kyle
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