On Friday 12 February 2010 11:03:59 Frank Schaefer wrote:
> >> libv4l compiles at least on the last 8 kernel-versions (and likely on
> >> olders, too).
> >> Tells us, how far should we go with backwards-compatibility ? ;)
> > 
I think it is a bad decision to refuse to compile on anything without strong 
reasons. Users shooting themselves in the foot because they can't use CMake, 
or bad packagers, are not strong reasons.

> > I'm not sure *why* libv4l did not compile on that system I mentioned, the
> > kernel was not extremely old. :/
> 
> I don't know, too. It's really easy to compile libv4l. :)
> 
*shrug*
there was no configure, only a Makefile, and I typed "make" and it didn't work, 
so I gave up.

> > See it from my perspective: Some software I use all the time suddenly
> > refuses to compile because I don't have something that I don't need
> > anyway, and the software decides that it's not worth compiling without
> > that, uhm, essential feature. Kopete actually is somewhat important for
> > me, video support I never use.
> 
> You can make it suddenly work again by installing libv4l ;) .
> 
> Please note: there is currently NO possibility to compile Kopete WITHOUT
> the webcam-part.
Well, it does compile without v4l at least :)

> Maybe we could change this in the future, but it's a bigger task with a
> low prority at the moment.
> If you think it's worth the work and you can spend some time on it, your
> work will be appreciated.
> I personally prefer spending my limited time on improving the
> webcam-code to make it more usable for people and the protocols.
> 
You're the maintainers, I can't override your decision. But I think it's a bad 
decision: Kopete refuses to provide 90% functionality, you can have 100% or 
nothing. The general approach in KDE is usually to compile with the absolute 
minimum of dependencies and make the rest optional. That's developer-friendly.
Also consider that not every (Linux) system that can run KDE is a desktop.
Do you still think it's a good decision to not compile without v4l on a 
platform that runs Linux and that can never have a webcam?
(Well, I see how it can be a nice hack to connect a webcam to an N900...)

> Cheers,
> Frank
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