On Monday 08 February 2010 15:24:30 you wrote: > Andreas, please CC kopete-devel next time. We discussed that there > during the last 2 weeks. > This has been a commit to the trunk (far away from the next release) and > it really didn't break anything essential. > So it would have been nice if you had consulted the devel-list before > reverting it. > Please join the list for discussion. > > Andreas Hartmetz schrieb: > > SVN commit 1087015 by ahartmetz: > > > > Do not refuse to build without libv4l2 because Kopete also works without > > v4l, only the webcam part won't work. > > Why do you want to compile Kopete without webcam-support on Linux and > how would you do that ? > If you really insist on keeping this as an option, please modify the > cmake-files to not search for libv4l in that case. > I want to compile Kopete without video support because it doesn't compile at all otherwise. I downloaded libv4l and it didn't compile on the system I was on at the time, at university, where I don't have admin rights.
> > Note to bug reporters using source distros: > > you should know what you're doing and understand dependencies. > > It's also incosistent to depend on something that is really not essential > > only when compiling on a specific platform. > > I don't agree. Like it or not, libv4l *is* de facto essential in todays > Linux-world. > It provides all the device-specific-decoders, which the kernel-deves > decided to "push them out somewhere to userspace". > This is a highly political issue, but we simply have to accept the > current situation and have to manage it. > There are too many bug reports about not or poorly working webcams and > most of them are caused by packages compiled without libv4l. You could add some cheap hack (least amount of work possible) to show some kind of error message or warning about missing video support. Besides, somebody who builds kopete should *really* understand build dependencies. It sucks that people apparently can't read... FWIW, I've never owned a webcam. > > > libv4l is also not easy to > > > > impossible to compile on old kernels where the rest of Kopete works fine. > > libv4l compiles at least on the last 8 kernel-versions (and likely on > olders, too). > Tells us, how far should we go with backwards-compatibility ? ;) > I'm not sure *why* libv4l did not compile on that system I mentioned, the kernel was not extremely old. :/ See it from my perspective: Some software I use all the time suddenly refuses to compile because I don't have something that I don't need anyway, and the software decides that it's not worth compiling without that, uhm, essential feature. Kopete actually is somewhat important for me, video support I never use. > Regards, > Frank _______________________________________________ kopete-devel mailing list kopete-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kopete-devel
