Hi, Eugen!

Yes, during problem there are no pops. They only appear in the rendered output 
file. Another thing I have noticed is, that they only happen at the beginning 
or end of overlapping clips when there is a transition (Slide) or Volume 
Keyframable Effect involved.

Yes sir, I use Lubuntu 18.04 and Kubuntu 18.04.
I just checked and the clips are ususally 44.1khz 16bit.

The only way I can get rid of all pops is if I render with a 25FPS profile.
50FPS, 59.9 and 60FPS all produce the same pops.

It's driving me so insane omg, I can't sleep anymore.

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On August 27, 2018 8:58 PM, Eugen Mohr <eugen.m...@gmx.net> wrote:

> Hi John
>
> I assume your audio file is not proper because FFMPEG can handle 44.1kHz. As 
> Vincent Pinon mentioned: check if the audio is: 44.1kHz, 16 bit, WAV pcm 
> (i.e. with the program MediaInfo). This is CD standard. Maybe 24bits work as 
> well.
>
> Do you have this problem at playback or after you have rendered the video out?
>
> BTW: you are on Linux?
>
> Eugen
>
> Am 26.08.2018 um 22:28 schrieb johnar1:
>
>> Eugen, would you mind being a little more specific on what you meant by 
>> 44.1khz audio and 60FPS video interfering with each other over time, which 
>> causes clicks? I have searched everywhere on google but could not find 
>> anything.
>>
>> Is there a solution for this problem apart from converting every audio track 
>> to 48khz?
>> Switching the 60FPS profile to 25FPS and rendering the audio produces no 
>> clicks, but the audio has multiple blank parts and is unusable.
>>
>> Hope you can give a little more insight in this matter.
>>
>> Thanks a bunch!
>>
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>> On August 21, 2018 8:53 PM, Eugen Mohr 
>> [<eugen.m...@gmx.net>](mailto:eugen.m...@gmx.net) wrote:
>>
>>> Hi John
>>>
>>> It comes 2 things to my mind:
>>> -    Do you cut the audio at the zero point? In Audition (for example) is a 
>>> function that you can cut only at that point (when the wave goes through 
>>> zero) to avoid clicks.
>>> -    When audio frequency (i.e. 44.1kHz) and video frequency (i.e. 60fps) 
>>> interfere each other after a time and from there you get clicks. Video 
>>> rendering is always video frequency driven. This would be a FFMPEG problem.
>>>
>>> Merlimau
>>>
>>> Am 21.08.2018 um 19:55 schrieb johnar1:
>>>
>>>> Hey Jean, thank you for that valuable info.
>>>>
>>>> I have tested the 18.08 version that you linked and unfortunately the pops 
>>>> at the beginning of audio clips still occur, but I have made an 
>>>> interesting discovery.
>>>> When I render the entire project, there are three pops at the beginning of 
>>>> 3 clips, let's say at 01:23, 02:02 and 03:15 in the time line.
>>>> These audio pops only come up in the rendered output, not during playback.
>>>> When I only render a small selected zone surrounding the area where I know 
>>>> the pop will be, it does not occur.
>>>> Only when I render the full project, they appear.
>>>> I have tried this with all three known audio pops that I have spotted in 
>>>> the fully rendered project, and each time they disappear when I only 
>>>> render a selected area around them.
>>>>
>>>> The next thing I have noticed is that switching the playback settings 
>>>> betwen SDL and RTAudio  can affect this issue as well.
>>>>
>>>> As you know me now, I will now enter full testing mode and report back to 
>>>> you with a more detailed analysis.
>>>> I will compile the latest melt, ffmpeg and co in order to provide a full 
>>>> report, but I will use the AppImage versio 18.8.0 which you have suggested.
>>>>
>>>> Anything else I should consider?
>>>>
>>>> Best regards,
>>>>
>>>> John
>>>>
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>>>> On August 20, 2018 10:23 AM, Jean-Baptiste Mardelle 
>>>> [<j...@kdenlive.org>](mailto:j...@kdenlive.org) wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 18.08.2018 14:55, johnar1 wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hey Jean and guys!
>>>>>
>>>>> Hello Johnar!
>>>>>
>>>>>> I have uncovered a new problem with the latest stable AppImage 18.04.1 
>>>>>> release of kdenlive which is very troublesome.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Randomly, kdenlive will cause a "click" or "pop" sound at the beginning 
>>>>>> of an audio track. I have observed that this happens the most when two 
>>>>>> audio tracks are overlapping or a cut has been made at the beginning of 
>>>>>> the a clip.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have also found that audio pops disappear in the same footage 
>>>>>> disappear when switching from SDL to RTAudio in the settings.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I am using a fresh install of Kubuntu 18.04 with updates and
>>>>>> Mlt and ffmpeg versions all from the Appimage, so this has to be a thing 
>>>>>> in kdenlive or maybe the latest Alsa / Pulseaudio package?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have tried some stuff suggested in forums such as exporting only the 
>>>>>> audio in wav, but without luck.
>>>>>
>>>>> I have just uploaded the 18.08.0 AppImage containing the latest MLT. 
>>>>> Could you check if the problem still happens ?
>>>>> It is available here:
>>>>>
>>>>> https://files.kde.org/kdenlive/release/kdenlive-18.08.0-x86_64.AppImage.mirrorlist
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for your feedback.
>>>>>
>>>>> Jean-Baptiste
>>>>>
>>>>>> Any ideas?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>
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>>>>>> On July 26, 2018 9:20 AM, Jean-Baptiste Mardelle 
>>>>>> [<j...@kdenlive.org>](mailto:j...@kdenlive.org) wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 23.07.2018 00:21, Juku Trump wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hello Juku!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks a lot for your contribution and sorry for my late reply. Your 
>>>>>>> help is very welcome. I have now merged your contribution. Regarding 
>>>>>>> the tests, they need some work and currently don't all pass and crash. 
>>>>>>> We need to work on that.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Regarding other tasks, we really need to make a list of UI improvements 
>>>>>>> that could be done without too much knowledge of the whole code. I will 
>>>>>>> try to spend some time on it tomorrow, help is welcome. But basically, 
>>>>>>> if there is any UI related thing that you want to improve, feel free to 
>>>>>>> ask and we can guide you if needed.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Jean-Baptiste
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> My name is Juku. I am a film hobbyist and I have been using Kdenlive 
>>>>>>>> for about 8 years. As I'm also a developer, I thought I would try my 
>>>>>>>> hand on contributing to Kdenlive.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I have mostly been a web developer so far, so I do not have much 
>>>>>>>> experience with C++ (except for some tutorials) and I have never done 
>>>>>>>> any Qt development.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I viewed the "Junior Jobs" section in Kdenlive Development Information 
>>>>>>>> page and tried to fix #384511 for start ("New project window does not 
>>>>>>>> fit to laptop screen (1366x768)"). Thanks to a hint by Christoph Feck 
>>>>>>>> in the comments below that bug, I got it fixed and submitted the patch 
>>>>>>>> ([D14281](https://phabricator.kde.org/D14281)) for review.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Currently I'm having some trouble with the automated tests. Should 
>>>>>>>> they succeed in their current state or are there some known problems 
>>>>>>>> with them?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It would be helpful if someone would suggest some other tasks which I 
>>>>>>>> could start with.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>> Juku

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