On 19/05/2025 14:35, Konstantin Kharlamov wrote:
On Mon, 2025-05-19 at 10:03 +0930, Justin Zobel wrote:
On 18/05/2025 16:41, Albert Vaca Cintora wrote:
On Sun, 18 May 2025, 08:59 Justin Zobel, <jus...@1707.io> wrote:
If the contributor cannot tell you the license(s) of the code that
was used to generate the code, then it's literally gambling that
this code wasn't taken from another project by Gemini and used
without their permission or used in a way that violates the license
and opens up the KDE e.V. to litigation.
I'm no lawyer but I would expect that training AI will fall under
fair use of copyrighted code. If that's not the case already, it
will probably be soon. The benefits of AI to society are too large
to autoimpose such a roadblock.
Albert
From my understanding (what others have told me), AI generally does
not produce good quality code though. So how is that a benefit to
society?
I wrote some lengthy answer here, but then I scratched that because I
realized your question can really generate tons of lengthy replies
that no one will read 😅 I will say you that: AI is useful for simple
and tedious tasks. In general, you don't expect that AI will complete
correctly whatever you asked it to do. Instead you expect it to give
you some useful base, which you can change/correct/modify to fit
whatever you actually need.
Like, I dunno, do you have a friend in a foreign country who you want
to write a recent story, but the story is in english? You ask AI to
translate it, which will be don "almost good", so what you do then is
you go over the text and correct everything to match your style. This
is faster than translating everything manually. In fact, it well
matches what people-translators were doing for decades: they typically
translate texts in two phases, one is sort of writing a scratch, and
the other one is polishing, like adding suitable idioms, etc.
The problem is we're not talking about text here, we're talking about
code and code has licenses, on which language models don't care about.
I'm all for AI that helps humanity, but stealing code or using code that
is incompatible with KDE's license set is not it.
I want AI to solve world hunger, prevent disease and help me do the
housework :)
