Hi Uwe,
It is not my intention to create my personal GIS terminology.
My idea is to make menus simpler. Without creating a new terminology.
I give another example:
On "File>Save view" menu there are options which show again "save as" ("Save
view as>Save view as Raster" and "Save view as>Save view as SVG").
My idea is to rename the menus so users can see something similar to this: Save
view as>Raster and Save view as>SVG.
I want to work only on these topics. Which probabily make the menus more easy
to use for some people (without learn GIS terminology).
The only things that will probabily touch GIS terminology will be the usage of
"Feature" vs "item", which is connected only to two options ("Combine.." and
"Explode selected features" on Layer View context menu)
Regards
Peppe
--- Gio 9/4/09, Uwe Dalluege <uwe.dallu...@hcu-hamburg.de> ha scritto:
> Da: Uwe Dalluege <uwe.dallu...@hcu-hamburg.de>
> Oggetto: Re: [JPP-Devel] R: List of all OpenJUMP plug-ins.
> A: giuseppe_ar...@yahoo.it, "OpenJump develop and use"
> <jump-pilot-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>
> Data: Giovedì 9 Aprile 2009, 12:28
> Hi Peppe,
>
> I hope you will not create your own GIS terminology.
> Students for middle/class school
> and users who are not familiar with topological/GIS
> terminology
> have to learn this vocabulary!!!
>
> I think the terminology must be conform to the
> OGC-Standards!
> Please have a look at:
>
> http://www.opengeospatial.org/standards
>
> http://www.opengeospatial.org/standards/sfa
>
> http://www.opengeospatial.org/standards/sfs
>
>
>
> Regards
>
> Uwe
>
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> Giuseppe Aruta schrieb:
> > Hi all,
> > after East I will write down some proposal.
> > I am working around two ideas:
> > Modify some terminology on lòang files to make the
> menus more comprensible for 2 kinds of people: a) students
> for middle/class school
> > b) users who are not familiar with topological/GIS
> terminology
> > Two samples:
> > 1) I think to substitute "feature",
> "item" and "element" with only one word
> when these terms are connected to the description of the
> tool. For instance I think I will use a generic
> "item" or Martin's usage of
> "element"
> > 2) The menus are sometimes too long: there is a large
> usage of "selected" (Copy selected feature, past
> selected items on modified layers, etc) even when it is not
> bnecessary (Edit selected feature is not working/not
> enlightened on the menu if the features are not ...edited)
> > Using this two criteria a menu like "Copy
> selected feature" will become "Copy item" or
> "Copy element"
> >
> >
> > I will make a list of menus which could be useful for
> the former two classes of people (middle class students,
> Upper class students and land survayor). I image we can
> select at least 3 tipology of usages (Lower students, Upper
> students and Land survayors) with different degree of
> knowledge plus standard OJ.
> >
> > Landon, I think we can start to do separate lists of
> this tipologies of usage. You can work on land survayors and
> I on Lower class students. And than we can discuss on it
> >
> > Peppe
> >
> >
> >
> > --- Mer 8/4/09, Stefan Steiniger
> <sst...@geo.uzh.ch> ha scritto:
> >
> >> Da: Stefan Steiniger <sst...@geo.uzh.ch>
> >> Oggetto: Re: [JPP-Devel] R: List of all OpenJUMP
> plug-ins.
> >> A: "OpenJump develop and use"
> <jump-pilot-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>
> >> Data: Mercoledì 8 Aprile 2009, 21:51
> >> Hei,
> >>
> >> ok.. yes.. would be good if you/peppe and others
> can go
> >> through the menu functions and evaluate which ones
> are essential and which
> >> are not.
> >> For now, almost all of the plugins that are found
> in the default-plugins.xml file are tools-menu plugins
> whereas all
> >> others related to map navigation, drawing and
> file-in-out are
> >> "fixed" in the configuration files.
> >>
> >> I am welcoming such a list and will make the
> necessary
> >> changes after we compiled an all-agree-list; but I
> don't feel able to
> >> work on such a list, since I have different
> requirements for my research
> >> than the "average" users.
> >>
> >> thanks, Peppe, for bringing this up
> >> stefan
> >>
> >> Sunburned Surveyor wrote:
> >>> Peppe wrote: "Is it possible (is it easy)
> to
> >> deactivate some of these
> >>> plugins? My idea is to create a barebone
> Openjump,
> >> with few tools, to
> >>> use at school, similar to Jump-fur-school
> >> project."
> >>> I am also interested in a
> "bare-bones"
> >> OpenJUMP distribution for a
> >>> similar purpose. At some point in the future I
> want to
> >> install
> >>> OpenJUMP for land surveyors and clients that
> don't
> >> have a great deal
> >>> of GIS (or even computer) experience, and I
> want to
> >> keep the install
> >>> as small and clean as possible. I figured
> making a
> >> list of plug-ins
> >>> would be the first step in this process. The
> next
> >> steps would be
> >>> determining which plug-ins don't provide
> >> "critical" functionality and
> >>> that could be removed from a "bones"
> >> distribution.
> >>> I'd also like to clean-up some of the menu
> >> structure as part of this
> >>> process, and knowing which plug-ins contribute
> menu
> >> entries is going
> >>> to be important.
> >>>
> >>> Let me know if you would like to talk about
> this some
> >> more Peppe.
> >>> Perhaps it is a project that we can work on
> together.
> >>>
> >>> The Sunburned Surveyor
> >>>
> >>> On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 8:46 AM, Stefan
> Steiniger
> >> <sst...@geo.uzh.ch> wrote:
> >>>> Hei,
> >>>>
> >>>> deleting is one option.
> >>>> the other is using the read tags, eg.:
> >>>>
> >>>> change
> >>>> <plug-in>blabla</plug-in>
> >>>> to
> >>>> <!--plug-in>blabla</plug-in-->
> >>>>
> >>>> stefan
> >>>>
> >>>> Larry Becker schrieb:
> >>>>> Hi Peppe,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> You can deactivate any of the
> plugins you
> >> find in
> >>>>> ../bin/default-plugins.xml by deleting
> their
> >> entry from the file.
> >>>>> Some of the plugins in the list
> aren't
> >> really plugins at all, but base
> >>>>> classes for building plugins (all of
> them that
> >> start with Abstract...
> >>>>> and a few others).
> >>>>>
> >>>>> regards,
> >>>>> Larry
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 8:30 AM,
> Giuseppe Aruta
> >> <giuseppe_ar...@yahoo.it
> >>>>>
> <mailto:giuseppe_ar...@yahoo.it>>
> >> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Just a curiosity:
> >>>>> Is it possible (is it easy) to
> deactivate
> >> some of these plugins? My
> >>>>> idea is to create a barebone
> Openjump,
> >> with few tools, to use at
> >>>>> school, similar to Jump-fur-school
> project
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Regards
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Peppe
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> --- Mar 7/4/09, Sunburned Surveyor
> >> <sunburned.surve...@gmail.com
> >>>>>
> >> <mailto:sunburned.surve...@gmail.com>> ha
> scritto:
> >>>>> > Da: Sunburned Surveyor
> >> <sunburned.surve...@gmail.com
> >>>>>
> >> <mailto:sunburned.surve...@gmail.com>>
> >>>>> > Oggetto: [JPP-Devel] List of
> all
> >> OpenJUMP plug-ins.
> >>>>> > A: "OpenJump develop
> and
> >> use"
> >>>>>
> <jump-pilot-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
> >>>>>
> >>
> <mailto:jump-pilot-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>>
> >>>>> > Data: Martedì 7 Aprile
> 2009, 21:55
> >>>>> > I made a list of all the
> OpenJUMP
> >> plug-ins packaged with the
> >>>>> > core. You
> >>>>> > can find it on my OpenJUMP
> blog:
> >>>>> >
> >>>>> >
> http://openjump.blogspot.com/
> >>>>> >
> >>>>> > I tried to add it to the
> wiki page,
> >> but it seems to be down
> >>>>> > right now.
> >>>>> >
> >>>>> > SS
> >>>>> >
> >>>>> >
> >>>>>
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