I think "element" is the next closest word in English to the word "item" as we are using it in this context. You could use "thing", but I agree that isn't very professional.
Perhaps some of our other native English speakers could comment. SS On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 1:16 PM, Rahkonen Jukka <jukka.rahko...@mmmtike.fi> wrote: > Hi, > > I understood feature vs. item in the same way than others here when > translating OJ into Finnish for the first time. Mostly by trying the tools > and looking what they did when selecting eithere features or items. Problem > is that I couldn't find good translation to "item". What in the way suits > best in Finnish translates back to English as a "thing". That does not sound > professional. I have now used word suggested by the Finnish Geodetic > Institute, but I feel it is bit too scientific now, "primitive". Perhaps I > let them both be "features" in the next translation for OJ 1.3. > > -Jukka- > > -----Alkuperäinen viesti----- > Lähettäjä: Michaël Michaud [mailto:michael.mich...@free.fr] > Lähetetty: pe 6.3.2009 21:38 > Vastaanottaja: OpenJump develop and use > Aihe: Re: [JPP-Devel] feature vs item > > Hi, > > I think Sunburned Surveyor is correct. > > "Item" refers to the way SelectionManager works (see the second and > third button of the edition toolbox). > Selection manager can select the whole geometry of a feature, or only a > part of this geometry, or only a ring in a polygon in a multipolygon... > Any of thoses things are called item. Martin or Jon will correct me if I > misunderstood. > > @peppe : in french, I usually translate Feature as Object, Geometry as > Geometrie, and Item as...hum not sure, most often "Element", but I may > have changed depending on the context (Composant and Polyligne in the > context of the editing toolbar) > > Michaël > > > Sunburned Surveyor a écrit : >> Acutally, I beleive there is a difference between the two (2) terms, >> and a specific reason for using one and not the other in OpenJUMP. >> Martin Davis or Jon Aquino could confirm what I am about to say. >> >> An "item" can refer to a feature that is part of a composite Feature >> or FeatureCollection. (A FeatureCollection can also be a Feature.) For >> example, a LineString that is part of a MultiLineString would be an >> "item". >> >> Check out page 14 of the old developer guide for this explanation: >> >> "FeatureSelection (in which the user has selected whole features), >> PartSelection (in >> which the user has selected parts of a GeometryCollection feature), and >> LineStringSelection (in which the user has selected LineStrings inside >> a Polygon or >> GeometryCollection). So a user can select not only whole features but >> also pieces of them." >> >> This distinction is made frequently in the source code for the >> selection manager. I acutally find that the use of items makes the >> code much more complex, but I remember Martin or Jon explaining there >> was a good reason for implementing the selection mechanism this way. >> >> Landon >> >> On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 10:48 AM, Larry Becker <becker.la...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Hi Peppe, >>> >>> I guess you are referring to things like "Copy items" and "Paste Items." >>> Items, in this case is simply a more vague term for features. It was >>> probably chosen because it occurs in other applications, and is therefor a >>> familiar user interface. The less specific terms would be useful if it >>> becomes possible to perform the functions on things other than features. >>> >>> regards, >>> Larry >>> >>> On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 12:26 PM, Giuseppe Aruta <giuseppe_ar...@yahoo.it> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> hi all, >>>> I am conscious this is an old discussion: >>>> What is the difference between item and feature? Which one of them is >>>> synonimous of object? >>>> >>>> I also ask to non-english speakers to write down the terminology in their >>>> languages (basically Latine language like Spanish, French, Portuguese). >>>> Giving a look into the files languages I discover some differences, >>>> sometimes opposte usage. >>>> >>>> Regads >>>> >>>> Peppe >>>> >>>> __________________________________________________ >>>> Do You Yahoo!? >>>> Poco spazio e tanto spam? Yahoo! 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