Hi, I understood feature vs. item in the same way than others here when translating OJ into Finnish for the first time. Mostly by trying the tools and looking what they did when selecting eithere features or items. Problem is that I couldn't find good translation to "item". What in the way suits best in Finnish translates back to English as a "thing". That does not sound professional. I have now used word suggested by the Finnish Geodetic Institute, but I feel it is bit too scientific now, "primitive". Perhaps I let them both be "features" in the next translation for OJ 1.3.
-Jukka- -----Alkuperäinen viesti----- Lähettäjä: Michaël Michaud [mailto:michael.mich...@free.fr] Lähetetty: pe 6.3.2009 21:38 Vastaanottaja: OpenJump develop and use Aihe: Re: [JPP-Devel] feature vs item Hi, I think Sunburned Surveyor is correct. "Item" refers to the way SelectionManager works (see the second and third button of the edition toolbox). Selection manager can select the whole geometry of a feature, or only a part of this geometry, or only a ring in a polygon in a multipolygon... Any of thoses things are called item. Martin or Jon will correct me if I misunderstood. @peppe : in french, I usually translate Feature as Object, Geometry as Geometrie, and Item as...hum not sure, most often "Element", but I may have changed depending on the context (Composant and Polyligne in the context of the editing toolbar) Michaël Sunburned Surveyor a écrit : > Acutally, I beleive there is a difference between the two (2) terms, > and a specific reason for using one and not the other in OpenJUMP. > Martin Davis or Jon Aquino could confirm what I am about to say. > > An "item" can refer to a feature that is part of a composite Feature > or FeatureCollection. (A FeatureCollection can also be a Feature.) For > example, a LineString that is part of a MultiLineString would be an > "item". > > Check out page 14 of the old developer guide for this explanation: > > "FeatureSelection (in which the user has selected whole features), > PartSelection (in > which the user has selected parts of a GeometryCollection feature), and > LineStringSelection (in which the user has selected LineStrings inside > a Polygon or > GeometryCollection). So a user can select not only whole features but > also pieces of them." > > This distinction is made frequently in the source code for the > selection manager. I acutally find that the use of items makes the > code much more complex, but I remember Martin or Jon explaining there > was a good reason for implementing the selection mechanism this way. > > Landon > > On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 10:48 AM, Larry Becker <becker.la...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Hi Peppe, >> >> I guess you are referring to things like "Copy items" and "Paste Items." >> Items, in this case is simply a more vague term for features. It was >> probably chosen because it occurs in other applications, and is therefor a >> familiar user interface. The less specific terms would be useful if it >> becomes possible to perform the functions on things other than features. >> >> regards, >> Larry >> >> On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 12:26 PM, Giuseppe Aruta <giuseppe_ar...@yahoo.it> >> wrote: >> >>> hi all, >>> I am conscious this is an old discussion: >>> What is the difference between item and feature? Which one of them is >>> synonimous of object? >>> >>> I also ask to non-english speakers to write down the terminology in their >>> languages (basically Latine language like Spanish, French, Portuguese). >>> Giving a look into the files languages I discover some differences, >>> sometimes opposte usage. >>> >>> Regads >>> >>> Peppe >>> >>> __________________________________________________ >>> Do You Yahoo!? >>> Poco spazio e tanto spam? Yahoo! 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