Hi.
1) Kosmo plugin model vs OpenJUMP
We can also consider other two ways to share tools between OpenJUMP and
Kosmo. Please correct me if I am wrong as I am not a developer
a) OpenJUMP introduced the Beanshell Consolle which, I think, it is still
under estimate between the users. Nevertheless it probabily could be a good
tool integrate in Kosmo, too. Then OpenJUMPm and Kosmo can share some plugin as
Beanshell script
b) Another interesting area could be the Jython (Python) consolle, realized
by Larry for SkyJUMP and JUMP. Probabily only Larry has the basic knowlegment
in Jython to develop tools (expecially CAD like) in this language ( I am still
in ol' basic dos :-)). But even Python could be another area of common interest.
The question is: does Kosmo can use beanshell script written for OJ? How easy
is to traslate in beanshell script OJ tools to use in Kosmo. Of coarse the
question could be posted even also on the opposite direction (Kosmo vs.
OpenJUMP)
2) Save as Project file
We probabily could not loose the idea to find an exchange project format. Not
only for Kosmo and OpenJUMP but this would be an interest for all the
Opensource comunity (thinking about only how many Java GIS project could be
involved: JGRASS, GvSIG, UDIG).
If Styled Layer descriptor works between Kosmo and UDig, Opensource cimunity
could think about a Styled Project Descriptor.
Not a common file project but a way to exchenge project sharing at least the
style, without loosing each own project specificity (hyoerlink, 3D, etc). This
is a much more a needle proposal than a project
3) SLD
Antonio (and Saig Lista) wrote "..OJ SLD import plugin has a problem when
reading the color values..". We probabily ask Andreas what he think about and
check if there is a solution.
SAIG - Listas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ha scritto:
Hi to all.
I'll shed a little bit light on the issues from a developer point of
view (both proposals from Giuseppe and another one that Sunburned
Surveyor mentioned):
1) Kosmo plug-in model
I'll start with a little bit of history to clarify some ideas:
Kosmo started on August 2005. Our starting seed was the JUMP 1.0 fork
implemented by the Agiles group (the two starting developers of Kosmo
were part of the founders of this group). This fork implemented an
on-demmand framework to the existing JUMP datasource framework. Why
don't we use the 1.1.2 JUMP version that was already present at that
date? When we implemented the on-demmand framework on the last version,
the results that we obtained were worse that those obtained with the 1.0
fork. So we decided to start with it and added to this version some of
the improvements that were made to JUMP from the 1.0 to the 1.1.2
version. As we were advancing in the development of Kosmo, we have added
some of the improvements made to JUMP and also to OpenJUMP.
The plugin model that Kosmo uses is basically the same: we have added
some methods to the interfaces and the abstract classes, but they
haven't been changed heavily. There is no plugín dependency system
implemented. The extension model have been also improved, but is almost
the same too.
2) Save as - project file format
I think that a common project file format won't be a good choice:
currently each application uses its own project saving framework and
it'll be difficult for each one to change it to a common one. I think
that a better choice would be to implement a import/export OpenJUMP
project option in Kosmo and an import/export Kosmo project option in
OpenJUMP. We share some common objects (Task, Category, Layer,
FeatureCollections, DataSourceQuery, JUMP Styles, ...) that can be
recovered from the project XML file and loaded into each one.
3) SLD Import/Export
Kosmo only supports SLD export so far (the import plugin is planned but
it's not implemented yet). As Giuseppe says, this format can be used to
export/import the layer simbology between the two projects, as SLD is a
standard and it's not binded to a determinate application. Kosmo also
allows to save its own simbology format because we use some improvements
that are not present in the SLD standard. But most of the Kosmo
simbology can be exported to a SLD file without problem. Each
application could accept the parts of the standard supported, and the
rest of the file could be ignored. I think the SLD format it's a good
choice.
Regards,
PD: We've tested the Kosmo SLD export against UDIG 1.1 rc14 and all of
the tests have succeded. I've also test against the last OpenJump
nightly build with some sld files generated by Kosmo and the OJ SLD
import plugin has a problem when reading the color values: it seems to
read the color value string with a lot of spaces before and after it,
and the Color.decode() function fails (this could be corrected by
calling to the method colorString.trim()).
Giuseppe Aruta escribió:
> Hi Antonio,
> let me resume the two i(my) proposal that could be object of this
> discussion:. Just in order that developers can have an idea (from user
> point of view).
>
> 1) a "save as" to project file format shared by two software. This
> format (Jump, Kosmo or other) would not be alterate by saving option.
> eg. If I create a project in Kosmo with hyperlink or advanced style,
> when I open this project in OJ (which hasn't hyperlink or advanced
> style), modify something and save again to the project file, this
> doesn't alterate Kosmo's functionalities (hyperlink etc.)
>
> 2) Possibility that Kosmo and OpenJUMP would save the layer style to
> the same file type. Actually Kosmo saves to an its own style files
> (SLS) format and to SLD for web proposal. OpenJUMP doesn't have a save
> style file but newer Nightly build allows to export/import to SLD.
> The proposal is omologate the two SLD projects to let talk each other
> (I did a test and OJ doesn't import Kosmo SLD files) not only for web
> but also to exchange basic layer styles parametres (Colours of line,
> vertices and polygons, line width - possibily line type and simple
> poligon fill)
>
> I invite the other OpenJUMP developers to say their idea about.
>
> Best regards
> Peppe
>
>
>
> */listas
/* ha scritto:
>
> Hi Landon, Peppe and everybody.
>
> You are right Peppe, we were in East Holidays and I too needed to
> talk
> with our main developer team people (really I am not a developer
> and I
> am not able to speak about code, so I need them) :-) .
>
> I hope this afternoon some information to continue speaking.
>
> Best regards
> Antonio
>
> Giuseppe Aruta escribió:
> > Hi London,
> > I think that the break of comunication in these days regarding
> > Kosmo-OpenJUMP common project was due to East holidays. And also
> > because Antonio Muñoz probabily needs to talk with other Saig team
> > before taking a decision. Let us wait a couple of days.
> > BTW Kosmo put on their web site some manuals about Kopsmo and
> how to
> > develop extensions (Kosmo_manual_desarrollador.pdf and
> > Kosmo_manual_extensiones.pdf).
> >
> > Peppe
> >
> > */Sunburned Surveyor /* ha scritto:
> >
> > Peppe,
> >
> > Can you get a hold of the Kosmo team and see if there is any
> interest
> > in working on a common project file format?
> >
> > The Sunburned Surveyor
> >
> > On Thu, Mar 20, 2008 at 1:37 AM, Andreas Schmitz wrote:
> > > Giuseppe Aruta wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > > I saw on "List of changes" that Andreas is working a
> > > > lot on SLD import/export plugin (I image ter related
> > > > plugin (ImportSLDPlugIn.java and SLDImporter.java) are
> > > > for import/export SLD).
> > >
> > > yes, the SLD import/export is more or less finished.
> > Unfortunately, I'll be on
> > > vacation the next month, so I'll probably only get to it after
> > that. What's
> > > missing is a dialog to offer the user which style he wants to
> > import (in case of
> > > multiple ones and ones with filters) and some general stability.
> > >
> > > If someone wants to try it out with Kosmo-generated SLD (of
> > course also with
> > > completely unrelated SLD) I'd like to hear about it. I'm also
> > open for
> > > suggestions on how to handle more complicated situations.
> > >
> > > Best regards, Andreas
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