Hi again. Your message arrived me later than my previous one, so I am here again.
Of course, the SLD is too a good way to give users benefit from both projects just in the moment OpenJump get it (it seems it is coming soon :-) ). Best Regards Antonio Muñoz Giuseppe Aruta escribió: > Hi, the discussion is going down, probabily we need > more time to "digest" the proposal. > Anyhow I propone another "path" of collaboration > betwee OJ and Kosmo. > I saw on "List of changes" that Andreas is working a > lot on SLD import/export plugin (I image ter related > plugin (ImportSLDPlugIn.java and SLDImporter.java) are > for import/export SLD). > On the other hand Kosmo can export simbology on SLD > format. > We could image to coordinate the projects so both > software can read/save the same file... and use this > SLD to exchange style (at least basics polygon color, > line width, etc) between single shp layers (not only > on the web). > This probabily would be the minimun way that Kosmo > adìnd OJ talk each other > > What do you think about? > > Peppe > > @Stefan: thanks for your "gift" for me on the the main > OJ page! I relly appreciate, but I am quite shy to > leave it a long time! :-) > > > --- Sunburned Surveyor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > ha scritto: > > >> Peppe has identified two (2) good opportunities for >> collaboration, >> aside from the aspect of library design that I >> mentioned earlier. >> >> [1] Common file formats. >> [2] Common plug-in model. >> >> These were excellent ideas by Peppe. (I would point >> out that if Kosmo >> and OpenJUMP can share file formats, for things like >> projects, as an >> example, then we can also share libraries for the >> maniplation of these >> file formats at a lower level.) >> >> Here is a question for Kosmo. How is their project >> format file >> different from the one currently used in OpenJUMP? >> How have they >> changed the plug-in framework? >> >> Having the answers to those questions would put us >> on a path to some >> real discussion about how to preserve compatibility >> and cooperation in >> at least these to areas. >> >> Good work Peppe? >> >> Any comments? >> >> The Sunburned Surveyor >> >> On Mon, Mar 17, 2008 at 11:55 AM, Giuseppe Aruta >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >>> Dear all, >>> >>> while waiting other opinions, I want to give "my 2 >>> cents" to this discussion. >>> >>> I think there is no need to derfine a "long" term >>> project with the integration of tools from one >>> softwere to the other. >>> >>> If I see the story of Jump and its "sons" and >>> >> plugins, >> >>> I image that the main problem is that Jump >>> >> software >> >>> suffered loosing of compatibility with the former >>> versions, expecially plugin. >>> >>> This happend with Kosmo and OJ, but this is >>> >> happening >> >>> with OJ 1.2 NB if we considerer that, with the new >>> improvements, many plugin do not work (expecially >>> Pirol's ones which represent one of the most >>> specialized OJ "battlefront"). >>> >>> I image that a "short" term common project between >>> Kosmo and OpenJUMP would be to work on a common >>> >> way to >> >>> open/save projects. If Kosmo could open OJ project >>> >> and >> >>> "viceversa" it will give a great benefits for the >>> user who can switch between the two software and >>> >> use >> >>> what they need. This probabily won't effect on >>> >> any >> >>> other prblem (comatibility/client driven/etc) >>> >>> Is it practicable? >>> >>> Regards >>> >>> Peppe >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>> Dear Antonio, >>>> >>>> I thank you for your comments. It is always good >>>> >> to >> >>>> know your (positive) >>>> perspective on such a colaboration. >>>> >>>> stefan >>>> >>>> listas schrieb: >>>> >>>>> Hi all. >>>>> >>>>> First time, many thanks to Peppe, not only for >>>>> >>>> your nice collaboration >>>> >>>>> with Kosmo, but for your interest in find "a >>>>> >>>> common area for the >>>> >>>>> development of both brother" (I really like >>>>> >> that >> >>>> definition). >>>> >>>>> I would like to share some ideas/feeling about >>>>> >>>> your comments. >>>> >>>>> As you said, Kosmo is developed by project >>>>> >> needs, >> >>>> but maybe it is better >>>> >>>>> to explain a little more the meaningful (our >>>>> >>>> meaningful) of "project >>>> >>>>> needs and project driven development": >>>>> >>>>> Our main objective is not to develop Kosmo >>>>> >> itself. >> >>>> Our main objetives >>>> >>>>> are the "client driven projects". To be able >>>>> >> of >> >>>> realize correctly those >>>> >>>>> projects, we need continuously build and >>>>> >> improve >> >>>> Kosmo. So, about a >>>> >>>>> "strict schedule" (a good subject to analyze), >>>>> >>>> this exist, but mainly >>>> >>>>> for those projects. So, strict schedule for >>>>> >> Kosmo >> >>>> exist only for what >>>> >>>>> is neccesary to carry out our commitment with >>>>> >>>> clients. Without clients >>>> >>>>> we could not maintain Kosmo project. We are >>>>> >> just >> >>>> a small company who >>>> >>>>> think we are able to work and live in a free >>>>> >>>> software model, and return >>>> >>>>> to community all we can. >>>>> >>>>> About community, Kosmo is not only focused on >>>>> >> a >> >>>> spanish user community. >>>> >>>>> In fact, in the last 1.2 versión it has been >>>>> >>>> translated into italian >>>> >>>>> (thanks to Peppe), russian (thanks to Sergey >>>>> >>>> Smirnov), german (thanks to >>>> >>>>> Johannes Sommer), brasilian portuguese >>>>> >> (thanks to >> >>>> Territoriolivre.net >>>> >>>>> people), baske (thanks to baske administration >>>>> >>>> people). Some other new >>>> >>>>> languajes are coming soon (czech, slovak...).. >>>>> >> We >> >>>> directly maintain >>>> >>>>> both, english and spanish version. >>>>> >>>>> As you said, we have an important developmet >>>>> >> team, >> >>>> because we have >>>> >>>>> client driven projects that let us to maintain >>>>> >> it. >> >>>> We think other way >>>> >>>>> it is not possible for us to improve and to >>>>> >> let >> >>>> Kosmo growing. >>>> >>>>> We have translated/included a lot of >>>>> >> code/tools >> >>>> from >>>> >>>>> OpenJUMP/Jump/DeeJump/Pirol/Sigle projects >>>>> >> (and >> >>>> other no Jump family >>>> >>>>> utilities). >>>>> >>>>> Like some of you we would have liked a better >>>>> >>>> cooperation. We still >>>> >>>>> would like it. >>>>> >>>>> -Maybe all we (you and us) have been, and will >>>>> >>>> continue very busy to do >>>> >>>>> enough work in draw a common way to work >>>>> >> together. >> >>>>> -Maybe it is not very easy. >>>>> -Maybe we too could do an additional effort >>>>> >> and >> >>>> collaborate in help >>>> >>>>> translate and merge OpenJUMP into Kosmo. >>>>> -Maybe would be neccesary strict schedule only >>>>> >> for >> >>>> those who need to >>>> >>>>> attend different/external Kosmo project >>>>> >> commitment >> >>>> (private commitment), >>>> >>>>> and absolutely free to dedicate the time they >>>>> >>>> want, when they want for >>>> >>>>> people developing Kosmo itself. In other >>>>> >> words, >> >>>> none strict schedule >>>> >>>>> for Kosmo itself. >>>>> >>>>> About Intevation/LatLon and SkyJUMP team, we >>>>> >> think >> >>>> it would be a very >>>> >>>>> good opportunity to get a positive synergy >>>>> >> between >> >>>> us. >>>> >>>>> We are not sure how easy/difficult arrive to >>>>> >> this >> >> > === message truncated === > > > > Inviato da Yahoo! Mail. > Tanti modi per restare in contatto con chi vuoi. > http://it.docs.yahoo.com/mail/overview/index.html > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft > Defy all challenges. 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