Why not put our perception to the test? Here <https://docs.google.com/a/canonical.com/spreadsheets/d/1T-8rf_XxXbvCCRRHT69KtRM5k4oJiHyTEuzbENBU0Js/edit#gid=0> is a spreadsheet where you can compile your variables. The top line summarizes the sum of values. The column that gets green is the one we should go for [assuming we are representative]
Sam On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 7:45 AM, John Meinel <j...@arbash-meinel.com> wrote: > So there is the question of what is the "user experience", and people > trying out Juju and it seems slow. Though if it is slow, doesn't that mean > that images are out of date? > > I just bootstrapped a fresh Ubuntu from Amazon's web interface today, and > I noticed that apt-get upgrade on there installed a new bash to fix the > newest major security hole. It seems like it is good to at least apply > security updates, and I'm not sure if it is easy to only install those. > > John > =:-> > > On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 7:51 AM, José Antonio Rey <j...@ubuntu.com> wrote: > >> I believe that, as Jorge mentioned, most users do value having everything >> up to date by default, specially when they may go directly to production >> environments. Devs may also want to use this switch, as it will save time >> during the deployment for testing the charms they have developed. >> >> I believe that turning on upgrades as a default would be more valued by >> end-users, but that's just a personal opinion. >> >> -- >> José Antonio Rey >> On Oct 1, 2014 2:34 PM, "Jorge O. Castro" <jo...@ubuntu.com> wrote: >> >>> On Wed, Oct 1, 2014 at 3:26 PM, Kapil Thangavelu >>> <kapil.thangav...@canonical.com> wrote: >>> > juju can save minutes per machine (especially against release images) >>> if we >>> > turn off upgrades by default. >>> >>> There are some updates coming to how we build cloud images that might >>> be relevant to this discussion: >>> >>> http://blog.utlemming.org/2014/08/archive-triggered-cloud-image-builds.html >>> >>> IMO safer and slower makes sense for most people, those of us who need >>> speed for demos/conferences will know about this switch. >>> >>> -- >>> Jorge Castro >>> Canonical Ltd. >>> http://juju.ubuntu.com/ - Automate your Cloud Infrastructure >>> >>> -- >>> Juju mailing list >>> Juju@lists.ubuntu.com >>> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: >>> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/juju >>> >> >> -- >> Juju mailing list >> Juju@lists.ubuntu.com >> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: >> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/juju >> >> > > -- > Juju mailing list > Juju@lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/juju > > -- Samuel Cozannet Cloud, Big Data and IoT Strategy Team Strategic Program Manager Changing the Future of Cloud Ubuntu <http://ubuntu.com> / Canonical <http://canonical.com> UK LTD samuel.cozan...@canonical.com +33 616 702 389
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