In an attempt to forestall a current FAQ: Yes, the lists went down. Yes, the lists are still not configured correctly. Yes, there is a reason the subject lines don't have a [listname]: the lists aren't configured correctly. Yes, there is a reason for (insert brokenness here): the lists aren't configured correctly. Deb is working as hard as she can to make things right. In the meantime, I counsel and beg that we all be patient. If you can send and receive mail to the lists, GREAT. Her advogato diary records that she struggled for days just to get that basic functionality up and running again. She's moving us to a new server, and to a mailing list management system she's not familiar with, in an attempt to get the lists as functional and stable as possible. But she's mastering an entirely new tool to do so. It will take time for her to get things configured to her liking. I'm pretty sure she'll make an announcement when it's all working correctly and properly reconfigured again. She's recording her struggle in her diary on http://www.advogato.org/. Her username there is dria, click on dria in 'people' to see and read her diary. Thanks. Jenn V. -- Humans are the only species to feed and house entirely separate species for no reason other than the pleasure of their company. Why? [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jenn Vesperman http://www.simegen.com/~jenn/