Dakota Surmonde wrote:
> In part I was hoping when Ingrid brought this up, that we could use the
> chance to better-define what's up with the boys' club, and once we had a
> better description, discuss ways of changing (since I expect that we are
> all coping in our individual ways...). Any takers on that, still?
I think we've roughly got a definition of what's wrong. Please be aware that
it's /rough/, and we're still figuring it out. Please also be aware that this
is me trying to tease a definition out of my perception of what's been said...
Premise 1: that icons and symbols have societal power
Premise 2: that the icon of the 'bikini babe' or any variation thereof
represents, for reasons of its historical use, woman-as-sex-object.
Premise 3: that the juxtaposition of the icon in premise 2 with a 'masculine'
icon
represents, for reasons of its historical use, a males-only area.
Premise 4: that computers are perceived and iconified in the current social
environment, as a primarily masculine icon - independant
of the results of this argument.
Combining 3 and 4: that the juxtaposition of a 'bikini babe' or any variation
thereof with a computer, defines a males-only area.
Combining 1 with that: that the definition of a males-only area around a
computer
has societal power
And yes, I could probably pull this down into a much better formed argument,
but I'm too tired. :)
To /me/, this explained why I was vaguely disturbed at Dancer (who is as
equalist
as they come) having a rather stunning anime of Rei Ianame (sp) from
Evangelion
on his computer - with no top on. I like the picture, I know he has it
because
HE likes the picture, I didn't get WHY it disturbed me until something in the
discussion yesterday made me put all the above together. Aha.
So I discussed it with Dancer, and he's going to try to be more aware of
his 'social iconography' 'body language'. But probably not around me. :) I
know
him well enough that I'm responsible for bloody saying something - hell, I do
the social iconography body language thingy to him, too.
We all do.
So. 'ow's it going, mate? Don't come the raw prawn with me...'
G'day.
Jenn V.
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Humans are the only species to feed and house entirely separate species
for no reason other than the pleasure of their company. Why?
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