On 2025-01-05, at 23:11, Michael Richardson <mcr+i...@sandelman.ca> wrote:
> 
> okay, so do we need new documents,

No.
(But see below.)

> or can some just be blessed to STD via
> IESG action?    

Yes.
(We did this with RFC20 == STD80, which was not quite a candidate for 
respinning.)

> Probably we should make a list of documents.
> 
> Generally, we'd need new documents if there are significant features which
> have NEVER been useful/implemented, and we should drop them first.

Correct.

> (I think that all of AH might fall into that, sadly)

Also, when elevating a document to STD, it should not have errata.
(See RFC20 for why I wrote “should not”, not “MUST NOT”.)
RFC 4301 has 2 verified, 7 HFDU.

Unfortunately, respinning a document that is twenty years old will require 
significant review, so the WG should be sure it has the energy to take this on.

Grüße, Carsten

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