At 11:25 AM -0800 1/5/10, gabriel montenegro wrote:
>I fully agree that a consensus call is an integral part of the IETF process.
>
>But what we're seeing here is not one but a plurality of consensus calls.

The two questions that Yaron asked are related to the questions from the IESG.

>I would have expected the response to the IESG to be: yes, this was the 
>consensus arrived
>in the WG at time X, here are further details, etc.

The IESG fully understands that there was rough consensus; that's not what they 
are asking. They want to know if there was a strong consensus, and did we see 
that we were straying from the charter.

>What we're seeing is: oh, ok, let's do it all over again.

That is one possibility; another is "OK, that's fine". But it is the IESG that 
gets to make that determination, not the WG.

--Paul Hoffman, Director
--VPN Consortium
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