> On 7 Nov 2017, at 17:21, Tony Marston <tonymars...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> 
> I was around when that happened, so I know what I'm talking about.

I'm not going to get into the whole "it can be done in userland why do we need 
it in core" debate, because honestly that's a silly discussion to have when you 
don't have any planned implementation to discuss the merits of.

The only reason I wanted to respond was your last line, quoted above.

Being "around" when something happens means zero as far as credibility or 
knowledge.

The captain of the titanic was "around" when it sank.



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