On Sep 8, 2016 3:05 PM, "Tony Marston" <tonymars...@hotmail.com> wrote: > > "Pierre Joye" wrote in message news:caezptu4twuap1xjx+z_n+sgj1ujptyn8pj5xuvmjei2dke0...@mail.gmail.com... > >> >> hi Tony, >> >> On Wed, Sep 7, 2016 at 2:52 PM, Tony Marston <tonymars...@hotmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> "Pierre Joye" wrote in message >>> news:CAEZPtU6aHYb9HsNXbXWp9q9PMoLYiJp=n1rjmspofmhbebd...@mail.gmail.com. .. >>> >> >>>> Happy to see there are still users for this tool, Christian and I had >>>> good fun writing it. Also you should know that this package is dead, >>>> it has no acttve maintainer (I was the last one) and has some >>>> limitations from to begin with, also was very handy at time especially >>>> for shared hosting without shell access. >>>> >>> >>> Typical. You create a useful tool, get your users hooked, then walk away and >>> leave them dangling. >> >> >> Ok. You seem to misunderstand the last part of my message. So let me >> be crystal clear here. Your attitude right now is poisonous, at best. >> Please change it. > > > You may not like my attitude, but I am expressing myself without using abusive terms. I am simply expressing my displeasure with this RFC using civil, polite and non-abusive terminology. If you don't like my expressions of disapproval then don't try to bully me into submission as that simply will not work.
> >> Now about this specific comment. >> > <snip> > >> >> So please, before you go down your big horse to insult my work and the >> community, > > > I did not insult your work as I have been using it for many years. What I find frustrating is that problems sometimes arise with a new PHP version, and nobody seems to be maintaining it. I have recently upgraded of my PCs to PHP7 and I had no end of problems. I had to debug and fix every error myself, but now I have the PEAR web interface up and running. This wording would have been better in the 1st place. Right now nobody maintains the web interface so feel free to take the hand on it. > >> do your homework and respect everyone here providing you >> the tools and language you use for your own projects. Also I strongly >> suggest you to consider your own view or vision as one along many, not >> the only viable absolute truth or usage. Thanks. > > > Then I suggest that you learn to respect your users. I do. See my previous reply. > There are huge numbers of developers out there who use PEAR, and they find a web interface more usable than the archaic command line. If you (and by "you" I mean everyone who works on PHP internals) wish to deprecate PEAR then you must first provide a viable alternative - with a web interface - and wait until it has become stable and been accepted by the community BEFORE you do so. Anything else would be less than professional. Given that nobody paid me to do it, I owe nobody anything. That being said, nobody suggests to deprecate pear but to do not bundle it. Also my personal view or need are about extension only and that's why I create pickle. Composer is the leader "packager" as of now. It is without being bundled and will be even if not bundled. We have the same goal for pickle, and is about to be nicely connected with composer. Whether it is or not part of the php releases is not really relevant to me. Would be nice but won't die if not :) Cheers Pierre
