On 08/09/2016 10:05, Tony Marston wrote:
"Pierre Joye" wrote in message
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hi Tony,
On Wed, Sep 7, 2016 at 2:52 PM, Tony Marston
<tonymars...@hotmail.com> wrote:
"Pierre Joye" wrote in message
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Happy to see there are still users for this tool, Christian and I had
good fun writing it. Also you should know that this package is dead,
it has no acttve maintainer (I was the last one) and has some
limitations from to begin with, also was very handy at time especially
for shared hosting without shell access.
Typical. You create a useful tool, get your users hooked, then walk
away and
leave them dangling.
Ok. You seem to misunderstand the last part of my message. So let me
be crystal clear here. Your attitude right now is poisonous, at best.
Please change it.
You may not like my attitude, but I am expressing myself without using
abusive terms. I am simply expressing my displeasure with this RFC
using civil, polite and non-abusive terminology. If you don't like my
expressions of disapproval then don't try to bully me into submission
as that simply will not work.
Now about this specific comment.
<snip>
So please, before you go down your big horse to insult my work and the
community,
I did not insult your work as I have been using it for many years.
What I find frustrating is that problems sometimes arise with a new
PHP version, and nobody seems to be maintaining it. I have recently
upgraded of my PCs to PHP7 and I had no end of problems. I had to
debug and fix every error myself, but now I have the PEAR web
interface up and running.
do your homework and respect everyone here providing you
the tools and language you use for your own projects. Also I strongly
suggest you to consider your own view or vision as one along many, not
the only viable absolute truth or usage. Thanks.
Then I suggest that you learn to respect your users. There are huge
numbers of developers out there who use PEAR, and they find a web
interface more usable than the archaic command line. If you (and by
"you" I mean everyone who works on PHP internals) wish to deprecate
PEAR then you must first provide a viable alternative - with a web
interface - and wait until it has become stable and been accepted by
the community BEFORE you do so. Anything else would be less than
professional.
nobody *must* provide a viable alternative. But providing an alternative
is the subject of this rf. so maybe php is respecting its users. also
remember that this "Request for Comments" is "Under Discussion". you're
opinion on the rfc is valued, the tone you are using and what you are
implying are a bit less welcomed
regarding the rfc, even if it where to be accepted as-is, you could
still use pear/pecl and its web interface. it just wouldn't be the
recommended way to install package & extensions and it wouldn't be
bundled with php 8. you'll have to install it manually if you are
installing php from source, or as usual with your distribution package
manager otherwise