On Tue, Aug 4, 2015 at 6:12 PM, Terry Cullen <te...@terah.com.au> wrote:
> On Tuesday, 4 August 2015, Johannes Schlüter <johan...@schlueters.de> > wrote: > > > On Sun, 2015-08-02 at 17:15 -0500, Stephen Coakley wrote: > > > You have to admit, NNTP news is an aging technology, with fewer and > > > fewer readers available as time goes on. Nowadays (for graphical > > > clients), there's Pan, and Thunderbird, and...? I use Thunderbird at > the > > > moment, because I didn't want to fill up my email, and there aren't too > > > many readers. Heck, Thunderbird is technically a "discontinued" > product. > > > > ... and with a forum there is only a single client. The forum > > itself. ;-) > > > > SCNR, > > johannes > > > > > > > > -- > > PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List > > To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php > > > > > Redmine would be a good option. http://www.redmine.org/ > > The feature list has most everything covered in this thread. > http://www.redmine.org/projects/redmine/wiki/Features > > > > -- > hi, maybe it just me, but it seems to me, that every time this idea is brought up, not many people from the actual participants of the list speak up, but bunch of people who never before sent a mail to the list will chip in. I'm not saying that there is nothing to improve, but I think that it would be important to actually incorporate some feedback from the people actually generating the content on the list. personally I would prefer moving to something like google groups and doing in a way that we can preserve archives ( https://github.com/wojdyr/fityk/wiki/MigrationToGoogleGroups) that would allow us to actually kill our ancient list/ezmlm infrastructure along with news.php.net which would be a huge win. it would also make it much more easier to search/link to our mailing lists archives: news.php.net has no way of searching, news://news.php.net is pretty slow, we have a couple of mail archives like https://www.mail-archive.com/internals@lists.php.net/ which are indexing some of our mailing lists, but they don't have the archives from the beginings, but I remember seeing a mail from them to ask for our archives in an mbox and they then would be able to add the missing indexes. moving to google groups would also make it much easier to manage the groups (there are less people familiar with ezmlm administration than people with google groups experience) and make it easier to reply to old mails. I think that would suit our usage pattern better than a forum and personally I don't really want to start hosting/maintaining one (we should have to integrate our own auth and probably acl into that, security audit, keep it up-to-date, etc.). -- Ferenc Kovács @Tyr43l - http://tyrael.hu