> -----Original Message-----
> From: Benjamin Eberlei [mailto:kont...@beberlei.de]
> Sent: Friday, March 13, 2015 10:50 PM
> To: Zeev Suraski
> Cc: Derick Rethans; Eli; Guilherme Blanco; Stelian Mocanita; PHP Internals
> List
> Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Basic Scalar Types
>
> On Fri, Mar 13, 2015 at 9:44 PM, Zeev Suraski <z...@zend.com> wrote:
>
>
>       > -----Original Message-----
>       > From: Derick Rethans [mailto:der...@php.net]
>       > Sent: Friday, March 13, 2015 10:34 PM
>       > To: guilhermebla...@gmail.com; Stelian Mocanita
>       > Cc: Eli; PHP Internals List
>       > Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Basic Scalar Types
>       >
>       >Chance of this RFC passing is going to be slim, as it only caters for
> one
>       >of the
>       > three groups that Antony described...
>       >
>       > I certainly will vote against it.
>
>       You may very well be right, but the only way of truly knowing would
> be
>       putting it up for a vote.  I'd feel a lot more comfortable if this was
> also
>       available for a vote before moving my nay to yay on the Dual Mode
> RFC.
>
>
>
> I don't get it.
>
> you called Andrea out for not putting up v1 of her RFC for vote because it
> had so much momentum behind it.
> Instead of just doing what bwoebi did you put up another RFC that got
> *much more* negative tone from the beginning.
> We agree on having a vote on two RFCs, coercive and v5.
> Now that coercive is the clear loser suddenly v1 must be up for vote as
> well?
>
> You had the chance to do just this.

Benjamin,

Maybe I was naïve, but I thought I had a better way to make both weak &
strict camps happy, instead of just ignoring the strict camp altogether.
While there was some opposition to it - it mostly came from the main
proponents of the Strict camp, and, well, you :)  Clearly right now it seems
that not a lot of people bought into the coercive approach, and while I hope
it can be turned around - I realize the chances for that happening aren't
stellar.  Given we can go to a vote on Bob's RFC tomorrow without having to
delay the PHP 7 timeline, I don't see strong reasons not to do it, and put
to rest any theories about what might have happened if v0.1 ever went for a
vote.

Zeev

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