> De : yohg...@gmail.com [mailto:yohg...@gmail.com] De la part de Yasuo Ohgaki
>
> Since people's preferences are diverse. It might be a good idea having 
> pre-vote
> for designs, then we may have final vote with single design.
>
> We need some consensuses even for pre-vote.
>
> What do you think?

What I think is that I have written a 600-line RFC, that you refuse to comment 
because you still hope you can impose a D-like syntax by another way. I don't 
agree on a pre-vote on design and, then, care about details, because that's 
just an artefact to get an agreement on D-like syntax before people can read 
and understand my proposal, and without exploring the implications of your 
design.

Here is a fair way to proceed: I have written an RFC, trying to explore 
honestly every aspects of the design I'm proposing. Now, either you agree, or 
you write yours with the same goal in mind. Then, we may choose. That's the 
rule. Saying 'I don't like that' without proposing an alternative is not the 
right way. I won't help you get an a-priori approval, just to say thereafter 
that, whatever problem we find, we must stick with this design because it was 
pre-approved. If you write an RFC and people approve it, that's OK.

Anyway, as I think DbC can be implemented without any change in the core, I'll 
probably implement it by myself as a zend extension. So, you can do what you 
want in PHP 7.

Regards

François




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