Hi Ferenc,

On Tue, January 27, 2015 14:46, Ferenc Kovacs wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 27, 2015 at 2:44 PM, Ferenc Kovacs <tyr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Jan 27, 2015 at 2:06 PM, Anatol Belski <anatol....@belski.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Hi Hui,
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, January 27, 2015 13:32, Xinchen Hui wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hey:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Jan 27, 2015 at 6:23 PM, Anatol Belski
>>>> <anatol....@belski.net>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, January 19, 2015 18:04, Anatol Belski wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I think the research on
>>>>>> https://wiki.php.net/rfc/removal_of_dead_sapis_and_exts is now
>>>>>> far enough to be discussed.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So far I only could not test sapi/nsapi because it needs a
>>>>>> SunOs/IPlanet.
>>>>>> But independent from that, it'd make sense someone to recheck my
>>>>>>  perceptions, or just the areas one is interested in.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Also hereby I'm calling the authors/maintainers of the
>>>>>> corresponding units to give the info about their intentions.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Lets think about it, anyway. Maybe I've missed some extension
>>>>>> yet, then that were a chance to add it to the RFC.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> thanks' for the feedback so far. I've changed the title now to
>>>>>
>>>>> "Removal of dead or not yet PHP7 ported SAPIs and extensions"
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Also extended the RFC with the information we've got so far -
>>>>> added the extensions suggested by Dmitry and the feedback arrived
>>>>> inbetween.
>>>>>
>>>>> Please check this again, I plan to start the vote on this next
>>>>> week.
>>>>>
>>>> removing extensions is okey, since they can goes to PECL
>>>>
>>>> but for SAPIs, where it can go... :<
>>>>
>>> They wouldn't have to go anywhere if they were supported well. With
>>> SAPIs
>>> - many of the servers are either very old or don't support the SAPI
>>> module. Thus porting those SAPIs, even if there were some willing,
>>> wouldn't make not much sense (well, maybe for the learning fun).
>>>
>>> Where should they go - I'd say nowhere. Extensions as well. The
>>> removal should be tagged as any other RFC patch. Then it can be picked
>>> from the tag by the persons ready/willing to maintain them, and taken
>>> into PECL or ported to PHP7 and included again. Depending on the vote
>>> results of course.
>>>
>>> Regards
>>>
>>>
>>> Anatol
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> what laruence is trying to say that we don't really have a syberia for
>> SAPIs as we have for exts(pecl), but given how these SAPIs are not
>> maintained/compatible with PHP7, I don't think that it is a blocker
>> problem. just maybe something we could improve with the future (would
>> also make it easier to develop SAPIs supporting multiple php versions
>> for example opcache and phpdbg, currently those are a bit PITA for the
>> maintainers).
>>
>
> sorry, for the confusion, ofc. opcache isn't a SAPI, but it is also
> provided as a pecl extension for php < 5.5, so while it is still a PITA
> for the devs, is unrelated to the topic of SAPIs.
>
>
ahh, in that sense that SAPIs are not supported to be built externally.
Yep, that were an improvement to the build scripts and the infrastructure.
But well, as it's not there - so lets retire them in a branch. Still
better than drag them along possibly getting bug reports.

Regards

Anatol



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