On Tue, Jan 27, 2015 at 2:44 PM, Ferenc Kovacs <tyr...@gmail.com> wrote:

>
>
> On Tue, Jan 27, 2015 at 2:06 PM, Anatol Belski <anatol....@belski.net>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi Hui,
>>
>> On Tue, January 27, 2015 13:32, Xinchen Hui wrote:
>> > Hey:
>> >
>> >
>> > On Tue, Jan 27, 2015 at 6:23 PM, Anatol Belski <anatol....@belski.net>
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> >> Hi,
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Mon, January 19, 2015 18:04, Anatol Belski wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> Hi,
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> I think the research on
>> >>> https://wiki.php.net/rfc/removal_of_dead_sapis_and_exts is now far
>> >>> enough to be discussed.
>> >>>
>> >>> So far I only could not test sapi/nsapi because it needs a
>> >>> SunOs/IPlanet.
>> >>> But independent from that, it'd make sense someone to recheck my
>> >>> perceptions, or just the areas one is interested in.
>> >>>
>> >>> Also hereby I'm calling the authors/maintainers of the corresponding
>> >>> units to give the info about their intentions.
>> >>>
>> >>> Lets think about it, anyway. Maybe I've missed some extension yet,
>> >>> then that were a chance to add it to the RFC.
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >> thanks' for the feedback so far. I've changed the title now to
>> >>
>> >> "Removal of dead or not yet PHP7 ported SAPIs and extensions"
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Also extended the RFC with the information we've got so far - added the
>> >>  extensions suggested by Dmitry and the feedback arrived inbetween.
>> >>
>> >> Please check this again, I plan to start the vote on this next week.
>> >>
>> > removing extensions is okey, since they can goes to PECL
>> >
>> > but for SAPIs, where it can go... :<
>> >
>> They wouldn't have to go anywhere if they were supported well. With SAPIs
>> - many of the servers are either very old or don't support the SAPI
>> module. Thus porting those SAPIs, even if there were some willing,
>> wouldn't make not much sense (well, maybe for the learning fun).
>>
>> Where should they go - I'd say nowhere. Extensions as well. The removal
>> should be tagged as any other RFC patch. Then it can be picked from the
>> tag by the persons ready/willing to maintain them, and taken into PECL or
>> ported to PHP7 and included again. Depending on the vote results of
>> course.
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Anatol
>>
>>
> what laruence is trying to say that we don't really have a syberia for
> SAPIs as we have for exts(pecl), but given how these SAPIs are not
> maintained/compatible with PHP7, I don't think that it is a blocker problem.
> just maybe something we could improve with the future (would also make it
> easier to develop SAPIs supporting multiple php versions for example
> opcache and phpdbg, currently those are a bit PITA for the maintainers).
>

sorry, for the confusion, ofc. opcache isn't a SAPI, but it is also
provided as a pecl extension for php < 5.5, so while it is still a PITA for
the devs, is unrelated to the topic of SAPIs.


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Ferenc Kovács
@Tyr43l - http://tyrael.hu

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