On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 9:28 PM, dukeofgaming <dukeofgam...@gmail.com>wrote:

>
>> so the problem is, that the userland is under-represented in the
>> development, because they usually not present on the mailing list and on
>> irc, where discussions and decisions happen, and they usually have
>> different
>> priorities and expectations about the PHP language than the core devs.
>> to make things worse, they cannot write patches for the core, and the core
>> devs rarely work on something which they don't particularly need or like.
>>
>> and I think that the only option where we can change that, is that us, the
>> php userland devs has to be more active on the mailing lists, irc, bug
>> tracking, writing RFCs etc.
>>
>
> Why not open a Google Groups list?, having every message recorded publicly
> and being easy to join-in I'd bet that the situation would change. I've seen
> it work really well for other open source projects, such as Joomla and
> Symfony.
>
>
you can already do that through http://marc.info/?l=php-internals or the
newsgroup, see http://php.net/mailing-lists.php
albeit google groups is better imho

Tyrael

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