On Tue, 10 May 2011 15:20:14 +0100, Alain Williams wrote:
On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 03:55:26PM +0200, christian.k...@mohiva.com
wrote:
I'm a userland developer, reading the list since two years I think.
And
I must say I'm totally frustrated about the developing process
itself.
The actual proposal process is always the same:
1. Someone proposes a new feature.
2. As next there is a long discussion about the topic which ends up
with more dissent than consensus.
I think that part of the problem is that we come to the language from
different
perspectives and so have different needs and use PHP in different
ways.
PHP is a language that is used by a very wide variety of people, most
of who
would never think of going anywhere near a mail list like this one.
This might mean that we have to accept that people will use PHP in
ways that
many of us might seem wrong. There is little point in telling them
that they
should be doing things differently because as far as they are
concerned they
are doing just fine.
An example of this is the procedural/objects paradigm choice.
OO is probably better for large projects and is favoured by many on
this list.
Many PHP users find objects and can probably use them, but almost
certainly
won't be able to write objects - the programs that they are writing
are fine
as procedural.
So: rather than saying ''OO is the only way'', we need to make life
easier
for those who will never write OO code.
Balanced against that is that you can't put everything into PHP.
Yes, this is the point. In my opinion PHP has an identity problem. Is
it an object oriented or a procedural language? I think the best from
both worlds seems to be inoperative!
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