>
>
> so the problem is, that the userland is under-represented in the
> development, because they usually not present on the mailing list and on
> irc, where discussions and decisions happen, and they usually have
> different
> priorities and expectations about the PHP language than the core devs.
> to make things worse, they cannot write patches for the core, and the core
> devs rarely work on something which they don't particularly need or like.
>
> and I think that the only option where we can change that, is that us, the
> php userland devs has to be more active on the mailing lists, irc, bug
> tracking, writing RFCs etc.
>

Why not open a Google Groups list?, having every message recorded publicly
and being easy to join-in I'd bet that the situation would change. I've seen
it work really well for other open source projects, such as Joomla and
Symfony.

Regards,

David Vega

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