At 22:19 30/05/2005, Marcus Boerger wrote:
Hello Sebastian,
Monday, May 30, 2005, 7:42:27 PM, you wrote:
> Rasmus Lerdorf wrote:
>> Asking Joe Orton and the various other package maintainers from the
>> major distros might be a good idea too.
> If there were to be no PHP 4.4 release with the fix I think that we
> would integrate the patch (once it is ready, of course) into the PHP 4
> ebuilds for Gentoo Linux.
> That aside, it seems to me that releasing PHP 4.4 is not a technical but
> a psychological (another PHP 4 release might slow PHP 5 adoption) and
> political (another release series to be maintained by vendors like Zend)
> problem.
If that is true - why did espicaially companies made a rush towards php 5
release which now nearly nobody is using becuase everyone seems to consider
it as a beta version of php 5.1 with the consequence that atm we have three
php versions we need to take care of?
I don't think too many people consider PHP 5 as a beta of PHP 5.1. I
haven't bumped into many, the main thing I'm seeing is concern about the
ease of upgrading, which is slightly justified. I haven't bumped into any
company that has concerns about stability. If they exist it's unfortunate,
because as you know, the chances of breakage between 5.0 and 5.1 are around
the same as the breakage between 4.3 and 5.0 as far as stability is concerned.
I'm really not sure how you can consider a release cycle of just over 3
years to be rushing anything anywhere. It's not the first time I'm hearing
this, and it's utter ****. We wanted to bring the huge improvements in PHP
5 to a few people beyond the Marcus's of the world, who feel comfortable
playing with CVS's. We're already seeing quite a few PHP 5 deployments,
and PHP's proliferation wouldn't have been anywhere near where it is now if
PHP 5 wasn't released a year ago, so all I can say is thank heavens we
didn't wait for 5.1.
Anyway, that's off topic. If everyone here thinks it's a good idea to go
with 4.4, let's go ahead and do it.
Zeev
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