On 9/7/22 12:56, Joel Halpern wrote:
From your description, it seems clear that the SCHC header is not an extension header.  It does not follow the rules for extension headers.  Instead, it is an upper layer / carried protocol, just like IP in IP, or UDP carrying all sorts of interesting network layer headers.

I should clarify, that the Next Header value is almost always there, but just not in the physically in the datagram.

It could even be UDP with a rule that squeezes it down to zero bytes on the wire.  Further, since this is the ONLY SCHC rule between the 2 parties, the physical length of the SCHC rule is also zero.  So what you may actually see on the wire is SCHC as Protocol Number and the next byte is the CID of a DTLS header.

So how do you label this thing?

Bob M.


Yours,

Joel

On 9/7/2022 12:47 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote:


On 9/7/22 12:36, Bob Hinden wrote:
Pascal,

On Sep 6, 2022, at 11:26 PM, Pascal Thubert (pthubert) <pthubert=40cisco....@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote:

Hello Bob M.

My support remains, and so does my earlier comment. I believe the IANA section should indicate that the IPv6 extension header type registry must be also updated, see the notes at the top of https://www.iana.org/assignments/protocol-numbers/protocol-numbers.xhtml
Is this an IPv6 extension header?    Does SCHC include a next header field so it can point to a header that follows?

I think it does (at least in some cases), but wanted to confirm this.   Might be good to add a few words in the draft that describes this.

Oh, boy....

That is all compressed!  The SCHC rule may say to expand and put in the next header.

For example the content is ESP, which it self is compressed according to appropriate SCHC rules.

So no, there is probably never an explicit Next Header.

And yes, there is almost always, after expansion, a header to be processed.

Wierd....

Bob M.



Bob


All the best;

Pascal

From: Int-area <int-area-boun...@ietf.org> On Behalf Of Robert Moskowitz
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Subject: [Int-area] Resubmit - requesting WG Adoption draft-moskowitz-intarea-schc-ip-protocol-number


As was discussed at the INTAREA meeting at IETF 114,

I request that a call for WG adoption of this draft.

I have made draft name change and edits per Bob Hinden.

As I said earlier, there is a lot of work which will cascade in other areas once this is one its way.

thanks

Bob




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Name: draft-moskowitz-intarea-schc-ip-protocol-number
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Title: Internet Protocol Number for SCHC
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Group: Individual Submission
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URL: https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-moskowitz-intarea-schc-ip-protocol-number-00.txt Status: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-moskowitz-intarea-schc-ip-protocol-number/ Html: https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-moskowitz-intarea-schc-ip-protocol-number-00.html Htmlized: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-moskowitz-intarea-schc-ip-protocol-number


Abstract:
This document requests an Internet Protocol Number assignment for
SCHC so that SCHC can be used for IP independent SCHC of other
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