8200 implies that the first bye of the extension header is the next header field.  explicitly and visibly.  So that one can walk the next header chain.

I would like us to articulate a clear meaning of when something is an extension header.   I have tried to lay one such out. (Recognizing that there are a few historical exceptions).  If we want instead to redefine IP-in-IP and UDP-carrying headers-with-next-header as extension headers I wouldn't like it, but I could live with it.  Or we can say it si completely random I suppose.  Although I have trouble seeing how that is a good answer.

Yours,

Joel

PS: In case anyone is unclear, I am not criticizing Robert M. (or Bob H.).  He is trying to do the right thing.  And yes, we should give him a code point for this use.

On 9/7/2022 5:49 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
ESP, RFC 4303 most DEFINITELY DOES have a Next Header Field.

It is just at the end of the datagram, before the ICV.


On 9/7/22 17:35, Joel Halpern wrote:
My reading of 8200 is that an extension header MUST start with a one byte "Next Header" field.  SCHC does not.  Therefore, it is a carried / upper layer protocol, not an extension header.  Much like IPv6 (in IPv6).  Or UDP (with carrying an application protocol or carrying some routing header like GRE, LISP, ...) or ...

Yours,

Joel

PS: I grant we are not fully consistent in this regard.  ESP does not have a next-header field.  (AH does).   But if we are going to pretend that some headers are extensions headers and some are not, we should try to be consistent with the description in 8200 (and 2460).

On 9/7/2022 4:57 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote:


On 9/7/22 16:35, Carsten Bormann wrote:
On 7. Sep 2022, at 22:04, Bob Hinden <bob.hin...@gmail.com> wrote:
To clarify my question, it only relates to if SCHC should be added to the IPv6 Extension Header Types registry.   I continue to think that adding it to the IP Protocol Number registry is fine.
I believe the answer should be the same as for 142 (RFC 5858), which is not in the list.

I couldn’t find out quickly what an IPv6 Extension Header Type is(*), so maybe that is an oversight for 142.

From my limited understanding and which Protocols are listed as Extension Header Types and which not (other than 142), it is a Protocol that transports other Protocols.

Though with that definition, I wonder how HIP got in the list.

It is fun to open a can of worms!


Grüße, Carsten

(*) An IP protocol number, apparently.
But what specifically does it make an IPv6 Extension Header Type as well?
The references given in the registry don’t seem to say.


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