Then you want some lower layer to the app to fragment. That is not a good idea. 

Dino

> On Dec 8, 2021, at 7:42 PM, Templin (US), Fred L <fred.l.temp...@boeing.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> 
>> 
>> Does that mean no app should send more than 576? 
> 
> Dino, I am not sure what to say in response to this other than you must not 
> be reading
> my messages. I want apps to be able to use whatever packet size gives them 
> the best
> performance *even if the packet size exceeds the path MTU*. Also, to 
> dynamically tune
> their packet sizes in case network conditions change and even use jumbos if 
> they want
> and if the path will support it. If that has not come across to you, please 
> go back and
> read my messages.
> 
> Fred
> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Dino Farinacci [mailto:farina...@gmail.com]
>> Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2021 3:58 PM
>> To: Templin (US), Fred L <fred.l.temp...@boeing.com>
>> Cc: to...@strayalpha.com; int-area@ietf.org
>> Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [Int-area] Side meeting follow-up: What exact 
>> features do we want from the Internet?
>> 
>> EXT email: be mindful of links/attachments.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>>> On Dec 8, 2021, at 5:33 PM, Templin (US), Fred L 
>>>> <fred.l.temp...@boeing.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Dino, my response to your response is "MTU diversity everywhere, with 576 
>>> as the
>>> minimum cell size". I know Joe won't like that, but I can't get him to give 
>>> a straight
>>> answer.
>> 
>> Does that mean no app should send more than 576? That would be a bug, a 
>> major performance bug. And you would be way too late to the
>> table. If it was the minimum an app has to send, that is a bug too and tardy 
>> as well.
>> 
>> So let’s move on to requirements again. I bet this list is bored with the 
>> topic.
>> 
>> Dino=
> 

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