Joe, I am having a hard time seeing your response as anything other than a
non-answer to my question.

Fred

> -----Original Message-----
> From: to...@strayalpha.com [mailto:to...@strayalpha.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2021 12:11 PM
> To: Templin (US), Fred L <fred.l.temp...@boeing.com>
> Cc: Dino Farinacci <farina...@gmail.com>; int-area@ietf.org
> Subject: Re: [Int-area] Side meeting follow-up: What exact features do we 
> want from the Internet?
> 
> Hi, Fred,
> 
> > On Dec 8, 2021, at 11:52 AM, Templin (US), Fred L 
> > <fred.l.temp...@boeing.com> wrote:
> >
> > Joe, RFC3819, Section 2 in particular gives BCPs for setting link MTUs.
> 
> NATs and tunnels don’t have control over the link MTUs over which they 
> operate; the user doesn’t have control over how those are
> composed or interact.
> 
> > By my read, the
> > only links that would set an MTU smaller than 576 should therefore only 
> > occur at the
> > network edges; not somewhere in the middle of the network.
> 
> Tunnels create an tunnel MTU (which is the link MTU, thinking of the tunnel 
> as a link) by fragmenting at the ingress and reassembling at the
> egress.
> 
> That happens anywhere in the network. While it PRESENTS an effective MTU of 
> the tunnel as a link, it doesn’t operate as if it avoids
> fragmentation.
> 
> Joe

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