Hi, Fred,

> On Dec 7, 2021, at 5:38 PM, Templin (US), Fred L <fred.l.temp...@boeing.com> 
> wrote:
> ...
> This conversation is missing some fundamental points – really the most 
> important
> points – which are the minimum sizes guaranteed to work everywhere. For IPv6,
> the minimum MTU/MRU are 1280/1500.

They work only because of source fragmentation at IP tunnels, e.g.

> For IPv4, they are only 68/576 but since
> the IPv4 network supports fragmentation we can nominally designate the IPv4
> minimum MTU as 576 also if we clear the DF bit.

But then those packets will fail through NATs.

> It means that, without probing
> or having some divine knowledge of paths that have not been previously 
> visited,
> the ONLY sizes guaranteed to work are 1280 for IPv6 and 576 for IPv4.

That’s the problem - they don’t. If they did, we wouldn’t be having this 
conversation ;-)

Joe

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