At 1:56 AM -0700 4/10/02, David Wright wrote:
>>Putting the password over the wire is always a bad idea.
>If there were no downside to challenge-response, I'd agree. But if 
>the price is storing my passwords unhashed, I'm not willing to pay 
>it. All my sites use MD5 or SHA hashing, which OpenLDAP supports.

I just don't think hashing gets you a whole lot.

You'll always be playing the leapfrog, hardware v/ algorithm thing. 
You're winning right now, but sooner than later, we'll be looking at 
MD5 the same way we look at crypt.

>>Maybe I'm a dork for buying into Kerb, but hey, I'm sold, sue me. 
>>Sasl seems like the best way to abstract kerb out to LDAP, cyrus, 
>>etc.
>
>Kerberos is the gold standard, I can't disagree there. But if 
>Kerberos abstraction is your only metric for a security layer, why 
>not just have everyone compile in libkrb and forget about the 
>security layer alltogether? :-)

Mainly, because I figure the people developing the LDAP rfc's are 
smarter than me, and they included sasl in v3. Thinking for yourself 
is over rated ;-)

I've been wrong before, though.

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