Hélas, à Paris il est très nuageux. ☁️

On Sun, Sep 7, 2025 at 17:33, Jean Michel DELIRE 
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DELIRE <<a href=)> wrote:

> There are interesting articles by Jean Filliozat about the way the nakshatras 
> were found, by opposing pairs, with the help of the full Moon, which probably 
> means that the Sun giving its light to the Moon was known.
> Jean Filliozat,  "La détermination des positions du Soleil dans l'astronomie 
> indienne ancienne", Archives internationales d'histoire des sciences, 21, 1968
> Jean Filliozat, « Notes d’astronomie ancienne de l’Iran et de l’Inde », 
> Journal Asiatique, CCL (1962)
> You can also read my article : A propos des constellations dans la 
> construction de l’autel védique , in Comptes-rendus de l'Académie des 
> Inscriptions et Belles-Lettres, 2006
> By the way, do not forget to watch the Lunar eclipse tonight, it will be 
> visible at sunset in Europe.
>
> Best,
>
> Jean Michel
>
> Le dim. 7 sept. 2025 à 15:32, Дмитрий Комиссаров via INDOLOGY < 
> [email protected]> a écrit :
>
>> Dear Matthew,
>> I meant something slightly different. Specifically, that the horizon at dawn 
>> has a bright pink color due to the rising sun, and it is this phenomenon 
>> that is compared to the color of the monastic robe. For the same reason, the 
>> moon might be slightly pinkish (in the author's view, perhaps). And the moon 
>> hanging above the horizon at that time is compared to Ananda's shaved head.
>> Best regards,
>> Dmitrii K.
>>
>> вс, 7 сент. 2025 г. в 16:26, Matthew Kapstein via INDOLOGY < 
>> [email protected]>:
>>
>>> Dimitri’s post raises a very interesting problem concerning Indian 
>>> knowledge of moonlight as solar reflection, rather than the product of its 
>>> proper luminosity. Someone once pointed out to me a passage from the 
>>> Nirukti - I’ve forgotten the details- that strongly suggests knowledge of 
>>> the lunar reflection. But was this very widely known and accepted?
>>>
>>> Matthew
>>>
>>> On Sun, Sep 7, 2025 at 15:14, Patrick Olivelle < 
>>> [[email protected]](mailto:On+Sun,+Sep+7,+2025+at+15:14,+Patrick+Olivelle+%3C%3Ca+href=)>
>>>  wrote:
>>>
>>>> Thanks, Matthew. That makes sense, and then in bahulapakṣagataḥ the 
>>>> ‘gataḥ’ would mean “gone into” rather than “in” as it has generally been 
>>>> translated. And, as Dmitrii points out, it must be the morning of the 
>>>> first day of the dark half, just after the full moon day. That makes great 
>>>> senses. Thanks.
>>>>
>>>> Patrick
>>>>
>>>>> On Sep 7, 2025, at 7:52 AM, Matthew Kapstein < [email protected]> 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Dear Patrick,
>>>>>
>>>>> Might it not be, more simply, that he seemed like a (formerly) full moon 
>>>>> that was now waning? There need not be an astronomical contradiction.
>>>>>
>>>>> best,
>>>>> Matthew
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, Sep 7, 2025 at 14:45, Patrick Olivelle via INDOLOGY < 
>>>>> [[email protected]](mailto:On+Sun,+Sep+7,+2025+at+14:45,+Patrick+Olivelle+via+INDOLOGY+%3C%3Ca+href=)
>>>>>  > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Dear All:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Aśvaghoṣa in his Saundarananda (5.53) compares Nanda’s shaven head to 
>>>>>> the full moon in the “bahulapakṣa”, which I take to be the kṛṣṇapakṣa. 
>>>>>> But, as far as I understand, there is no full moon in the dark fortnight 
>>>>>> of the month. Am I missing something in this simile? Is he saying that 
>>>>>> the full moon, it it appeared in the dark fortnight, would have looked 
>>>>>> as pathetic as Nanda’s shaven head? Thanks for any input. Here is the 
>>>>>> verse:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> nandas tatas tarukaṣāyaviraktavāsāś cintāvaśo navagṛhīta iva dvipendraḥ /
>>>>>> pūrṇaḥ śaśī bahulapakṣagataḥ kṣapānte bālātapena pariṣikta ivāvabhāse //
>>>>>>
>>>>>> With best wishes,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Patrick
>>>>>>
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