Ok Surjit ji.

Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju


On Sun, Jul 13, 2025 at 12:46 PM surajit koley <
[email protected]> wrote:

> Thank you, Saroj ji, for the updated id.
>
> With Regards,
>
> Surajit Koley
>
> On Wed, 9 Jul, 2025, 2:39 pm Saroj Kumar Kasaju, <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> Please check *Crinum ×amabile *Donn ex Ker Gawl.
>>
>> Thank you
>> Saroj Kasaju
>>
>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------
>> From: [email protected] <[email protected]>
>> Date: Friday, October 26, 2012 at 9:53:36 PM UTC+5:45
>> Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:136254] incredible Crinum from Hooghly
>> To: Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]>
>> Cc: efloraofindia <[email protected]>
>>
>>
>> Sir,
>>
>> Thank you very much for elaborating on three species of *Crinum*. Since
>> i do not have bulb size and segment size i understand that this species
>> should better be left as *Crinum* sp. only. Moreover i am not sure if
>> this plant is fragrant or not, even if it is fragrant surely would be
>> mildly.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> surajit
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Oct 26, 2012 at 10:28 AM, Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Surajit ji
>> Incidentally I have Bailey, Manual of Cultivated plants (a standard
>> reference  for cultivated plants) which treats Crinum asiaticum, C. amabile
>> and C. augustum as three distinct species. Former is differentiated by
>> white perianth and latter two by perianth red at least on outside. The
>> author admits C. augustum as "doubtfully specifically distinct from A.
>> amabile" differing in larger bulbs (up to 15 cm in diam.), less fragrant,
>>  and broader perianth segments  (12-20 mm broad) as against smaller bulb,
>> highly fragrant flowers and 10-12 mm broad segments. C. asiaticum is
>> considered as a very variable species with bulb 10-13 cm in diam, flowers
>> highly fragrant, white, with 10-12 mm broad segments.
>>      Perhaps we should avoid consulting The Plant List for cases where
>> better options like GRIN are available. The Plant List records all the
>> three as distinct species, but interestingly considers A. amabile var.
>> augustum (Roxb. ex Ker Gawl.) Ker Gawl. as synonym of C. asiaticum var.
>> asiaticum,, but if you look at their source (World Checklist) the citation
>> is C. augustum Roxb. (which The Plant List treats as independent species)
>> as synonym of C. amabile.
>>     It would be good to know whether our plants fits C. amabile or C.
>> augustum on the basis of bulb size and perianth width, and wait for some
>> recent publication which treats them better. GRIN considers C. amabile as
>> synonym of C. asiaticum, whereas   Kew Worl Check List treats C. amabile as
>> independant species with C. augustum as its synonym.
>>
>> --
>> Dr. Gurcharan Singh
>> Retired  Associate Professor
>> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
>> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
>> Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
>> http://www.gurcharanfamily.com/
>> http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Oct 25, 2012 at 6:53 PM, surajit koley <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Sir,
>>
>> If you click the following two google search -
>>
>>    1. *Crinum augustum* =
>>    
>> https://www.google.co.in/search?q=Crinum+augustum&hl=en&safe=off&prmd=imvns&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=u-eJUNzlBqmWiQf-oYGgCA&ved=0CAcQ_AUoAQ&biw=1517&bih=710
>>    2. *Crinum asiaticum* var. *asiaticum* =
>>    
>> https://www.google.co.in/search?q=Crinum+asiaticum+var.+asiaticum&hl=en&safe=off&prmd=imvns&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=6umJUJyPAbGTiQfR0ICgAQ&sqi=2&ved=0CAcQ_AUoAQ&biw=1517&bih=710
>>
>> the first link gives you majority pinkish white flower while the 2nd
>> gives majority white flowers!
>>
>> According to The Plant List -
>>
>>    1. *Crinum augustum* Roxb. ex Ker Gawl. is a synonym of *Crinum
>>    asiaticum* var. *asiaticum*
>>    <http://www.theplantlist.org/tpl/record/kew-303331>
>>    2. *Crinum amabile* var. *augustum* (Roxb. ex Ker Gawl.) Ker Gawl. is
>>    a synonym of *Crinum asiaticum* var. *asiaticum*
>>    <http://www.theplantlist.org/tpl/record/kew-309972>
>>    3. *Crinum asiaticum* var. *asiaticum* is an accepted name
>>    <http://www.theplantlist.org/tpl/record/kew-310841>
>>
>> GRIN list of *Crinum* =
>> http://www.ars-grin.gov/cgi-bin/npgs/html/splist.pl?3075
>>
>> NTBG has some description =
>> http://www.ntbg.org/plants/plant_details.php?plantid=11808
>> Dave's Garden = http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/go/90355/#b
>>
>> This is an ornamental herb, *Crinum* sp., in a private compound beside a
>> pond, recorded on 5/10/2012 in Hooghly.
>>
>> Thank you & Regards,
>>
>> surajit
>>
>> --
>>
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