Please check *Crinum ×amabile *Donn ex Ker Gawl. Thank you Saroj Kasaju
---------- Forwarded message --------- From: [email protected] <[email protected]> Date: Friday, October 26, 2012 at 9:53:36 PM UTC+5:45 Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:136254] incredible Crinum from Hooghly To: Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]> Cc: efloraofindia <[email protected]> Sir, Thank you very much for elaborating on three species of *Crinum*. Since i do not have bulb size and segment size i understand that this species should better be left as *Crinum* sp. only. Moreover i am not sure if this plant is fragrant or not, even if it is fragrant surely would be mildly. Regards, surajit On Fri, Oct 26, 2012 at 10:28 AM, Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]> wrote: Surajit ji Incidentally I have Bailey, Manual of Cultivated plants (a standard reference for cultivated plants) which treats Crinum asiaticum, C. amabile and C. augustum as three distinct species. Former is differentiated by white perianth and latter two by perianth red at least on outside. The author admits C. augustum as "doubtfully specifically distinct from A. amabile" differing in larger bulbs (up to 15 cm in diam.), less fragrant, and broader perianth segments (12-20 mm broad) as against smaller bulb, highly fragrant flowers and 10-12 mm broad segments. C. asiaticum is considered as a very variable species with bulb 10-13 cm in diam, flowers highly fragrant, white, with 10-12 mm broad segments. Perhaps we should avoid consulting The Plant List for cases where better options like GRIN are available. The Plant List records all the three as distinct species, but interestingly considers A. amabile var. augustum (Roxb. ex Ker Gawl.) Ker Gawl. as synonym of C. asiaticum var. asiaticum,, but if you look at their source (World Checklist) the citation is C. augustum Roxb. (which The Plant List treats as independent species) as synonym of C. amabile. It would be good to know whether our plants fits C. amabile or C. augustum on the basis of bulb size and perianth width, and wait for some recent publication which treats them better. GRIN considers C. amabile as synonym of C. asiaticum, whereas Kew Worl Check List treats C. amabile as independant species with C. augustum as its synonym. -- Dr. Gurcharan Singh Retired Associate Professor SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 http://www.gurcharanfamily.com/ http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ On Thu, Oct 25, 2012 at 6:53 PM, surajit koley <[email protected]> wrote: Sir, If you click the following two google search - 1. *Crinum augustum* = https://www.google.co.in/search?q=Crinum+augustum&hl=en&safe=off&prmd=imvns&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=u-eJUNzlBqmWiQf-oYGgCA&ved=0CAcQ_AUoAQ&biw=1517&bih=710 2. *Crinum asiaticum* var. *asiaticum* = https://www.google.co.in/search?q=Crinum+asiaticum+var.+asiaticum&hl=en&safe=off&prmd=imvns&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=6umJUJyPAbGTiQfR0ICgAQ&sqi=2&ved=0CAcQ_AUoAQ&biw=1517&bih=710 the first link gives you majority pinkish white flower while the 2nd gives majority white flowers! According to The Plant List - 1. *Crinum augustum* Roxb. ex Ker Gawl. is a synonym of *Crinum asiaticum* var. *asiaticum* <http://www.theplantlist.org/tpl/record/kew-303331> 2. *Crinum amabile* var. *augustum* (Roxb. ex Ker Gawl.) Ker Gawl. is a synonym of *Crinum asiaticum* var. *asiaticum* <http://www.theplantlist.org/tpl/record/kew-309972> 3. *Crinum asiaticum* var. *asiaticum* is an accepted name <http://www.theplantlist.org/tpl/record/kew-310841> GRIN list of *Crinum* = http://www.ars-grin.gov/cgi-bin/npgs/html/splist.pl?3075 NTBG has some description = http://www.ntbg.org/plants/plant_details.php?plantid=11808 Dave's Garden = http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/go/90355/#b This is an ornamental herb, *Crinum* sp., in a private compound beside a pond, recorded on 5/10/2012 in Hooghly. Thank you & Regards, surajit -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "eFloraofIndia" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/b010e6e0-1add-4b86-b8db-4be026a43e03n%40googlegroups.com.
