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Keep your concentration on server products only Excerpts from > GARTNER (research company) > > "Although commercial open-source vendors have emerged to provide support > on linux, most still are struggling to establish viable long-term > business strategies" > > "Most large enterprises are looking for flexibility, levarage and > lower-cost alternatives and beleive they have more options in the server > world than on the desktop. The result is that more than 90 percent of > servers with linux will ship on Intel architectures in the enterprise by > 2007." > > "Linux revenue will capture about 18 percent and windows about 33 > percent of the total market, compared to the 2002 range of 6 percent for > linux and 32 percent for windows, according to Gartner Dataquest" > > Servers for Enterprises: > NETWORK ARCHITECTURE: DNS, DHCP, NFS, BIND, PPP, SLIP, IMAP4, POP3, > NNTP, TCP/IP, OpenLDAP, SMTP, NIS, Firewall builder, FTP, OpenSSL, XML, > SOAP > > APPLICATION AND WEB INFRASTRUCTURE: SAMBA, Apache, J2EE, Tomcat, PHP, > Squid, Sendmail, Mozilla, Opera, PERL, ReiserFS, ext3. > > DBMS: PostgreSQL, MySQL > > So, we should not concentrate on Web Applications Servers and > Groupware. Server and Storage Management softwares. because these fields > would be dictated by Closed, propetiary, commercial vendors. > > Sugg3. We can plan and make strategies for migration sometime but what > is also equally important is how we Deploy these plans. For ex, > > 1. Make reporting and documentation forms (to be filled by the team when > they visit companies) > 2. Make full quality plan. > 3. Produce case studies for migration (redhat site has some good > migration case-studies) > > These things attract companies/enterprises so we should not forget this. > > May be i can give more suggestions sometime but this is now enough. If i > can be of any help to you guys , Iam always ready. > > BTW i am working as a linux/security consultant in the State of Kuwait. > > Thanks > Vineet Mehta > > On Sun, 2002-11-17 at 14:53, Gaurav Prasad wrote: > > > > Hi dude(s), > > > > its very good u r interested and i agree with the point greatest achievement of this team till now was couple of people saying "ME TOOO" > > > > So some people are interested ...so...so what this team is supposed to do.....i think when i first wrote the mail ......i had in my mind how to create platform so that Corporate can migrate quickly to linux.......but first lets see why corporates are not migrating (in large numbers to linux....even though according to IDC poll 60% of corporates are considering linux) > > > > Lets see what average CIO thinks > > > > 1)Who gonna provide me support in middle of night...six month later or year after(support .....Faculty management services is huge responsibility and business) > > > > 2)What abt my application running on win32api ....I cant stop using it just like that(we need think abt that) > > > > 3)Hi my users ....who consider mouse as extension of their arm ...may become hyper active after seeing Unix like interface (One look kde 3 is enough) > > > > 4)Hi my nt administrators ......CLI stuff gives me butter flies (hasnt heard abt linuxconf and webmin) > > > > 5)If this things fails if will loose my job...(Oh no if this succeeds you will save enough money for company to get handsome promotion or incentive and they may decide to postpone your retirement) > > > > we need focus on following usp of linux > > > > 1)Lowest TCO > > > > 2)Single point administration > > > > 3)OS can customized for exact need of customer > > > > so linux migration team will have to do following > > > > 1) Customize linux and promote as a product > > > > 2)Be ready to provide 24X7 support > > > > 3)Consider interoperability with existing proprietary systems > > > > Above can be only possible if we some what of commercial in nature...so idealists i am sorry...and hi whats wrong with earning bread and butter from linux > > > > I an thinking and working towards Corporate Computing platform based on open source .Basic framework is defined here > > > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Corpos/files/Opensource.ppt > > > > Plz give your feedback, suggestions or healthy criticism ..I foresee a healthy discussion. > > > > Se ya > > > > gaurav > > > > Dhruv Gami <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:On Thu, 14 Nov 2002, sudhir chauhan wrote: > > > > > Hi Friends, > > > > > > I would like to join you guys, > > > > > yeah ok, good idea. > > then what ? > > > > First of all, please go and read the mailing list > > guidelines. Learn how to live on the internet and talk to people there. > > > > Also, If you are really interested in doing something, why dont u come up > > with some ideas and implement them, instead of lines like "i would like > > that" and "me too". > > > > LAP started quite some time back and there has been a lot of talk abt it, > > but apart from 6-7 people who are actively working on it, not a single > > soul turned up for it, i only got mails from people that they are > > interested. well, if ur interested, then why the $^%%^ are u in hiding > > ???? do u expect me to come to ur place and give u an invitation card for > > meetings ??? > > > > Let me make it very clear, LAP is NOT a curriculum development program. > > Its much much more. Its about freedom, about ideas, about choice, about > > linux, about help, about the future, and i'd be glad if the efforts of the > > seemingly enthusiastic so called "quick reaction team" were channelised > > towards this cause. No point in starting a parallel project and resulting > > in failure of both. > > > > All those interested in doing all the above, and more, join the LAP team > > (http://lap.linux-delhi.org) and for god's sake regsiter yourself there > > and DO SOMETHING apart from sitting at home and sending > > suggestions. There's a separate mailing list for it. goto the site for > > directions on how to join it. > > > > No offenses meant, ;) , and none taken. (where have i read this before??) > > > > And this was meant for all, and not just poor Sudhir. (sorry dude) > > > > regards, > > Gami > > > > ================================================ > > To unsubscribe, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe in subject header. Check archives at http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd%40wpaa.org > > > > > > > > U haven't seen the best if u haven't seen > > > > www.gauravinfo.8k.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > Do you Yahoo!? > > Yahoo! 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