On 11:09:39 May 15, Kenneth Gonsalves wrote:
> do you mean to say that there are two kinds of application development -
> Rapid and ordinary? Like tatkal and ordinary in railway bookings? RAD does
> not mean 'how quickly can I produce a page of css/html'. It means how
> quickly can I get a bug free application in production and how quickly I
> can alter/upgrade the same in production. You generate html quickly not by
> using automating tools like dreamweaver, but by using templates so that you
> only write one piece of code once. And that one piece you do write should
> be written with an understanding of CSS and HTML. Employing hundreds of
> code monkeys to use DW to generate html without knowing what is html is not
> rapid development - it is an invitation to disaster. The doze WYSIWYG
> culture is aimed at trying to convince people that they can write
> applications without knowing how to write code. The 'nix - GNU/Linux way
> focusses on understanding what you are doing. I have been in discussion
> with good web designers, and have yet to find one who uses DW. The
> preferred workflow is:
> 1. mock-up in photoshop (gimp for us)
> 2. slice/convert mockup to html
> 3. break out a text editor and clean up the CSS/HTML
>
>>
>> I would prefer creating a bulleted list by using clicking on a button then
>> manually using the tags(you may be different in this case, but to my
>> limited
>> knowledge there aint many who would do this!).
>
> I prefer to create a bulleted list like this:
> <div class="someclass">
> <ul>
> {% for item in listitems %}
> <li>item.name</li>
> {% endfor %}
> </ul>
> </div>
>
>
>>
>> After all , how many developers know loop-unrolling and compiler
>> optimisations and ASM snippets when they are programming 'applications' in
>> C/Java.
>
> cannot comment on this as I have no idea about C/Java
>>
>> Do note(again) that my observation is purely targetted at RAD developers
>> and
>> not those who develop mission-critical or high performance programs - in
>> the
>> latter, each and every line of te the program matters, and genreally these
>> are 'hand-coded'.
>
> a developer is a person who aims at perfection - and there is no
> distinction for him between RAD and ordinary.
>>
>> Also, i would be interested in knowing as to how this is the "GNU/Linux
>> Way".
>
> understanding what you are doing - and having the source available to play
> with, and having lakhs of people sharing their code to look at, use,
> emulate, copy ...
This is one of the best answers I have seen in ilugc in recent times.
Way to go luggies!
-Girish
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