Patrik,

Of course, the exact depletion date experienced by an ISP will vary
very widely. 2015 is the date *most frequently* cited by the ISPs
reported on in draft-ietf-v6ops-isp-scenarios.

Regards
   Brian Carpenter

On 2010-05-28 17:04, Patrik Fältström wrote:
> I also think 2015 is very optimistic for some players. Specifically cellphone 
> providers that provide data access over for example 3G or 4G. The growth is 
> so fast that the block allocations from the RIRs are hard to compute.
> 
> I helped one at the last RIPE meeting in Prague, and then will now get a /13 
> that will help them through calendar year 2010. They will definitely not be 
> able to get today the addresses they need until 2015. And they definitely do 
> not have it.
> 
> And that is in Sweden, only 9 million people.
> 
>    Patrik
> 
> On 27 maj 2010, at 22.02, <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>> 2015 seems awfully optimistic. I wouldn't want to be the poor soul 
>> responsible for their ISP network who built a transition plan based on a 
>> 2015 depletion and then realized I was wrong by a few years. 
>>
>>
>> Jason
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of 
>> Brian E Carpenter
>> Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2010 12:14 PM
>> To: Ole Jacobsen
>> Cc: Noel Chiappa; [email protected]
>> Subject: Re: IPv4 depletion makes CNN
>>
>> On 2010-05-28 02:44, Ole Jacobsen wrote:
>>> I guess my point was more that this article actually quotes a *real* 
>>> expert rather than someone we've never heard of --- a more common
>>> practice for the press. Whether or not you agree with Daniel, he does
>>> at least have extensive experience in these matters.
>> The major problem with the story is that it confounds IANA runout
>> (objectively predicted for 2011) with when ISPs run out of IPv4 space
>> (which is not so easy to predict, but 2015 is a popular estimate). The
>> rest is pretty good for a story in the non-technical media, IMHO.
>>
>> You can find Daniel's recent talk at http://www.ipv6.ie/summit2010/.
>>
>>   Brian
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