On Mon, 29 Nov 1999 22:45:17 PST, Ian King said: > any "lack" because of it. I don't play UDP-based games or employ any of the > other relatively new protocols that are so sensitive to end-to-end-ness > (should they be? was that a valid assumption?), so a NAT is a great solution Well.. Urm... TCP and UDP both assume that one endpoint is talking directly in real time to another endpoint. The NAT problems only start when the protocol carries IP address/port information (such as the FTP 'PORT' command), and the NAT isn't aware of that protocol's translation requirements (If you see *this* at offset 80 of *that* packet, smash it to read *foobar* instead). I'll grant FTP an exemption, it came well before NAT units became prevalent (Was there an FTP-over-NCP before The Great IP Deployment?). However, I do agree that anybody designing a protocol in the last 3-4 years *should* have designed it to be firewall and NAT friendly. (Yes, I know that can be difficult in practice. I guess that's today's "Welcome to Reality"). Valdis Kletnieks Operating Systems Analyst Virginia Tech
- Re: IP network address assignments/alloca... Perry E. Metzger
- Re: IP network address assignments/allocation... Keith Moore
- Re: IP network address assignments/alloca... Richard Shockey
- Re: IP network address assignments/allocations inf... Steve Hultquist
- RE: IP network address assignments/allocations inf... Tony Hain (Exchange)
- RE: IP network address assignments/allocation... Pete Loshin
- RE: IP network address assignments/allocation... Paul Ferguson
- Re: IP network address assignments/alloca... Daniel Senie
- RE: IP network address assignments/alloca... Matt Holdrege
- RE: IP network address assignments/allocations inf... Ian King
- Re: IP network address assignments/allocation... Valdis . Kletnieks
- Re: IP network address assignments/alloca... Keith Moore
- Re: IP network address assignments/alloca... John Day
- X.25 as a model for NAT boxes - NOT Harald Tveit Alvestrand
- Re: X.25 as a model for NAT boxes... John Day
- Re: IP network address assignments/allocation... Keith Moore
- Re: IP network address assignments/allocation... Perry E. Metzger
- RE: IP network address assignments/allocations inf... Steve Hultquist
- RE: IP network address assignments/allocations inf... Melinda . Shore
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- RE: IP network address assignments/allocations inf... Steve Hultquist