On 3/21/25 8:07 AM, Todd Herr wrote:
On Fri, Mar 21, 2025 at 10:55 AM Michael Thomas <m...@mtcc.com> wrote:

    This seems to presume that "dkim2" is some creature completely
    apart from DKIM. That is not at all clear, and it's not clear what
    is being proposed is anything more than plain old DKIM with a few
    new tags and some normative text surrounding them. I don't think
    that changes anything wrt to DMARC as they have orthogonal goals.

    We should definitely *not* be presuming that this is anything
    completely different than DKIM, and frankly should stop calling it
    "dkim2" until it's established that it is actually incompatible
    with DKIM. It hasn't been. DKIMbis would be much more appropriate.


You are correct of course in that the hypothetical world I described (widespread adoption of a thing I called DKIM2 that acts as I hypothesize it will act) does not exist yet, and it may never exist.

Similarly, the world you're describing where existing DKIM is modified as the end result of this group's world is just as hypothetical at this point, so I ask for your (collective) indulgence, please, to see that the question I posed is answered within the hypothetical context of a world where the thing I called DKIM2 does in fact exist.

I really don't know why we should presume it's something completely different wrt DMARC. Why would it be? I'm not really sure what the point is of bringing it up at this point in any case. Why do we need an answer for this now?

Mike
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