On Fri, Mar 21, 2025 at 11:05 AM Mark Alley <mark.alley=
40tekmarc....@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote:

> If Joe Schmoe, an email administrator, signs corporate mail with DKIM2 but
> have other mail streams that may not support it, or legacy systems
> incapable of using it, would not DMARC still be needed to apply/report
> to/for these other mailstreams in that scenario, or to protect from
> external entities trying to spoof the domain?
>
> I've perused the draft, and unless I'm missing text somewhere, I don't see
> where DKIM2 would fulfill the policy request for unauthenticated emails,
> unless you're saying that DKIM2 usage (or lack thereof) would be akin to
> ADSP-esque behavior in some way?
>

I think you're describing a world where a Domain Owner authorizes some mail
streams using DKIM2 and some mail streams using SPF/DKIM as is done today.
Obviously DMARC has a place in the authentication of those latter streams,
layered on top of SPF/DKIM as it is now, but that's not the world I'm
thinking of here.

I'm thinking instead of a world where "DKIM2" exists and is effectively the
only authentication protocol and its specification says "Receivers SHOULD
reject messages that fail DKIM2 validation".

What role could DMARC play in *that* world?

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