On 2/1/25 12:56 PM, Dave Crocker wrote:
On 1/25/2025 4:00 PM, Richard Clayton wrote:

... the notion
that allowing a choice of relaxed or simple for bodies means that people
have to engineer for both -- that's exotic

Right.  Everyone must use ASCII, because allowing Unicode would be exotic.  Everyone must use all uppercase, because mixed case is exotic.  And all email must be in English, because using other languages is exotic.

Or maybe it is OK to start with some flexibility, when there was no operational history to give a clear sense of what is needed, and the desire was to permit some exploration.

Just as it is fine to use the experience to later converge on more restriction in choice.

That's a process that isn't exotic.  It's mature.

Which calling the original arrangement exotic isn't.

IIRC, when we changed the folding-ws algorithm to relaxed, Murray and I had it up and running in a couple of days. I feel sorry for engineers who think other engineers are this incompetent. We're not. And I wasn't even in favor of the change, but you know -- suck it up buttercup. An engineer who hasn't learned "it depends" in real life is... well, I'll leave that for the reader.

I hope we can agree that Van Gogh's Starry Night is legitimately exotic and other worldly if we need to talk about exotic. DKIM's choices were not "exotic". They were ordinary and the product of a consensus driven process.

Mike



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