They were running MVS and VM with an MVT mentality.

/Tom

On 08/22/2019 19:16, David Spiegel wrote:
Hi Tom,
In 1985, who was running MVT?

Regards,
David

On 2019-08-22 19:05, Thomas Kern wrote:
Thirty-four years ago I taught my Federal customers (MVT sysprogs)
that there were three things I could not do once I had proper
communications.

1) I could not mount tapes
2) I could not tear paper off the printers
3) I could not press the Power button

Now we no longer have mainframe attached tape drives. We no longer
have mainframe attached printers.
And with the improved communications, I CAN power the system up and down.

Managers want me at a desk in a office so they can feel they have some
power over my work. None of them could do my work if they tried.

/Tom Kern
On 08/21/2019 17:15, David Spiegel wrote:
Hi Ron,
For SysProgs in particular, what is gained by having people "at the
office"?
I view this as old school, without justification.
If project milestones are set properly, the employees will have to work
consistently to meet them (and not goof off).
If the managers think that they can see who's working, they are
mistaken.

I can see where development staff might have to work at the office if
the environment is highly collaborative.
(I worked on an online banking project (3 years ago) where this was
necessary.

Charles: I work at 3 jobs (not all busy at once), all remote.

Regards,
David

On 2019-08-21 17:02, McCabe, Ron wrote:
If this is something that should not have been done on the list I
apologize but do have to admit that I would like to see what other
companies are allowing in this area.

Yes our employer does allow for mainframe sysprogs and developers to
work from home.
There are restrictions and the main one is who your manager is.?? Our
developers have a nice manager and allows them to work from home 2
days a week, our sysprogs have a different manager and he only
allows 1 day per week.
No policies have been changed.
About 90% of my colleagues work from home.?? Our developers are also
allowed to work 9 80's and 4 10's, sysprogs and admins do not get to
as they have to work 5 days a week.

Thanks,
Ron McCabe
Manager of Mainframe/Midrange Systems
Mutual of Enumclaw

-----Original Message-----
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU> On
Behalf Of Charles Mills
Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2019 1:46 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Attitude of companies toward mainframers working from home?

I am doing a favor for a friend who is writing a blog article on the
above subject, with an emphasis on the effect of the shrinking
mainframe personnel pool. (This is NOT some disguised headhunter
pitch. Reply to the list or to me personally. I will take full
responsibility for "sanitizing" your e-mail address and so forth out
of what I forward to my friend.)

Does your employer allow mainframe sysprogs and developers to work
from home?
Any particular restrictions or qualifications?
Have they changed their policies specifically to address the
shrinking mainframe personnel pool?
Roughly what percentage of your colleagues work from home?

Thanks!

Charles

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